mialikescoffee,

The discourse in the last few days regarding #Meta and #Threads gives the impression that the entire Fediverse is already blocking Threads. I wanted to take a look at the numbers and they speak a different language. The data source for my calculation is https://fedipact.veganism.social/?v=2.

Measured by user count, 76 % of all users are federated with Threads. Remaining instances with 24 % of users either block Threads or are limited (e.g. infosec.exchange).

CynAq,

@mialikescoffee that just means a few very large instances are federating with threads and a large number of smaller instances are defederating or limited.

In other words, it’s a representation of the real world where a large majority of people just follow trends set by people of influence and are content with just belonging, and many different minority groups are trying to loosely hang together to form a defense against their complete eradication by the enormous majority’s inertia.

#threads #meta #fediverse

mialikescoffee,

@CynAq This is how it looks like, when you aggregate by instance count instead of user count.
So 58,99 % of the instances are federating with at the moment.

santiago,
@santiago@masto.lema.org avatar

@mialikescoffee @CynAq Let’s keep in mind in some time the view most people will have from the outside will be like:

  • Total 212M Fediverse users *
  • 200M on Threads
  • 3 of 12M non-thread instances blocked the remaining 209M users.

Basic impression will be Fediverse means Threads but a part of it “doesn’t work”.

Still. I will be happy stay on the side of the 9 millions.

  • Yes these are fictional numbers at the moment.
kkarhan,

@mialikescoffee well, infosec.exchange is sadly.reversing the limitation of #Threads as @jerry launched https://infosec.space for those that don't want that.

Sadly not the other way around but those are his instances and his decisions and I respect that...

jerry,

@kkarhan that’s right. It appears that there is a vocal minority opposed to threads while the vast majority at least want the option to interact with it. @mialikescoffee

thenexusofprivacy,

@mialikescoffee very useful data, thanks. Polls consistently show more users want to block or limit than federate ... they might not be representative, but if they are there's a significant mismatch between what admins are currently doing and what people want them to do.

Any chance you could rerun it with active users? It'd probably be similar -- most active users are on larger instances who generally aren't blocking -- but it'd still be interesting.

mialikescoffee,

@thenexusofprivacy Perhaps I will do another evaluation, as circumstances will also change.
Unfortunately, I don't know at the moment whether and how active users can be measured.

thenexusofprivacy,

@mialikescoffee Cool, I know this isn't the only "helpful" suggestion you're getting and there are only so many hours in the day!

Monthly and six-month active users are in the nodeinfo data ... and fedidb / fediverse observer / the veganism site all have monthly data as well.

73ms,

@mialikescoffee Do you know what accounts for the difference in your findings vs. what @folkerschamel reported here: https://mastodon.social/@folkerschamel/111578560621666468

nemobis,
@nemobis@mamot.fr avatar

@73ms They're actually consistent. About 1M registered Mastodon users is about 10 % of the total from all known instances, cf. https://mastodont.cat/@fediverse/111608227382428837 .

The fedipact.veganism.social list of 2k instances used in https://social.tchncs.de/@mialikescoffee/111607872804167774 probably has most of the instances which block, but many of the ~8k instances it doesn't list are probably not blocking.

Looking at 6-months active users is probably more interesting though.

#FediMeta

73ms,

@nemobis thanks, did not realize the list used here was that incomplete.

what are you suggesting is interesting with the MAU? not sure how that helps with the question of how Mastodon feels about tthreads...

nemobis,
@nemobis@mamot.fr avatar

@73ms The number of total registered users is an indicator of how big/relevant an instance was in the past, rather than in the now.

73ms,

@nemobis that is true. Is there a datasource for getting an active user estimate for each instance easily?

nemobis,
@nemobis@mamot.fr avatar

@73ms Many. https://fedidb.org/ is perhaps the easiest to use.

mialikescoffee,

@73ms @folkerschamel
I think the difference is that he used one additional data source.
And the data is always just a snapshot anyway and can change over time.

folkerschamel,

@mialikescoffee @73ms

Yes, it seems that https://fedipact.veganism.social/?v=2 includes only a subset of servers.

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