JoMiran,
@JoMiran@lemmy.ml avatar

I’ve been running Linux for almost thirty years. Back in the day i would customize everything. Now I basically install and run it stock.

boredsquirrel,

Same, but a few Plasmoids are nice to have…

I also like it simpler than stock KDE. no sounds, no floating, no animations.

pipows,
@pipows@lemmy.today avatar
Flex,

Wasn’t there an issue with themes deleting user data on kde recently?

boredsquirrel,

A “global theme” which is a set of themes, widgets, splash screens, cursors etc.

I dont think the inclusion of code is the problem, but that the bundle had a script for installation that was faulty.

Using [ -e $VARIABLE] && do something with $VARIABLE would have solved it.

MonkeMischief, (edited )

Plasma “get new stuff” does need an overhaul though, after a poorly-coded theme could wipe a guy’s drives. So careful what you install and always have backups, kids!

THAT BEING SAID:

I remember Win98 letting you customize wallpapers for individual folders.

I remember being a Win-ME kiddie that was thrilled with all the fun wallpaper/icon/sound/screensaver themes it came with. . .even though Windows ME lol.

Then XP was so bright and vibrant and fun I didn’t care too bad that it let you choose from THREE dazzling color schemes. I also loved that StarDock cursor freeware that gave me a bunch of obnoxious animated cursors.

Vista’s desktop applets seemed so neat except for the “massive security hole” part.

And here we are with 10 or 11: [Pulsing blue light] “We’Re sEtTiNg Up YoU’Re bLaNd DeSkToP…get hypnotized by spinny circles and forget you once had choices.”

It’s going so backwards, and they think they’re so ahead of the curve by letting you tint your theme based on wallpaper color. Pffft.

Since I switched to Plasma I’ve had SO MUCH FUN setting up my desktop however I want it. I have a laptop install that feels like “Vaporwave XP”, but my main rig is all efficient and sleek and pretty, and I get the urge to flip it all around every few months. It makes personal computing feel personal again!

Mimicking old themes is especially fun because you’re still on a security-patched system that works the way you expect, but with improved nostalgic feelings!

I really want to learn to make my own splash screens and icons and cursors some time. The fact that I easily can do this and the community could enjoy them is SO COOL.

I miss when it was commonplace for people to customize and personalize their computers. It would say a lot about them. Now most normie folk don’t even know how to change the wallpaper…

boredsquirrel,

You can just place this file to disable the component entirely.

The getnewstuff needs an overhaul, but not related to this. This is about the naming of global themes.

whome,

Why is everybody so obsessed with tweaking and customizing an OS?! My systems are pretty much vanilla and apart from the file browser I hardly use any active OS features.

InternetCitizen2,

I stay close to vanilla. For others its a form of art.

Nisaea,
@Nisaea@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Because it’s fun.

I like having fun.

HEXN3T,
@HEXN3T@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I sure do love installing KDE Plasma however I want

grimaferve,

I remember in XP, Vista and 7 using the UXtheme dll mod to get third party themes. First the loss of the sidebar then the drop-off of themers. I skipped 8 and by 10 I'd had enough. Didn't really come back to theming until I made the jump to full-time Linux in 2022. Theming support being there by default in KDE is amazing. I miss the 2007-2018 themes but Oxygen keeps me happy for now.

dan,
@dan@upvote.au avatar

The uxtheme thing was great because it was pretty powerful, and since it was just the standard theming system built-in to Windows, it was more reliable than theming systems that required third-party apps (WindowBlinds being the most common one).

Apparently uxtheme patching still works on Windows 11, but I haven’t tried it.

cupcakezealot,
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

this acts like rainmeter and stardock windowblinds weren’t vastly superior …

lastweakness,

They weren’t though… I used to love the stardock stuff especially. But they were objectively inferior. I also couldn’t run hyprland or sway with nearly every part replaced by an unconventional replacement like the friggin notifications daemon for example. Even on Plasma, i could literally replace the entire shell. And even on GNOME, I could add an “extension” that essentially replaces the GNOME workflow.

As much as I enjoyed those days of windows customisation, it was far too shallow compared to what i can do on a Linux setup. Will i do all that though? Probably not, i like my Plasma setup as it is right now.

cupcakezealot,
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

i’m talking about being vastly superior to the built in theme options in windows since it implied third party tools were “bloat” instead of being genuinely useful.

DumbAceDragon,
@DumbAceDragon@sh.itjust.works avatar

Technically linux users need third party tools to even boot into a usable OS.

merthyr1831,

Not if you call it GNU/Linux 🤓☝️

Presi300,
@Presi300@lemmy.world avatar
TrickDacy,

Big akshually vibes

festnt,

if everything is third party then nothing is? my guess is thats the idea at least

boredsquirrel,

Thats why you have RedHat, SUSE, Canonical etc. Legal entities that offer warranty for that random bundle. Insurance that issues will be fixed.

Because if you are just “a racoon digging for free code” you have nothing to request from anyone.

FiskFisk33, (edited )

difference is you dont need a third party tool to change the thing, if you’re unhappy with the thing, you change the thing out itself, you are not stuck with it.

jol,

Yes but we get to choose the bloat we want. Windows uses need bloat to cover up the native bloat.

cm0002,

Windows used to actually have cool theming capabilities in Windows 98 (And I think ME/2000) what the hell happened to that LMAO

TrickDacy,

No it didn’t. Changing a few colors isn’t really the same as “cool theming”

cm0002,

It did more than “a few colors”, compared to today’s fancy modern theming systems it was def rudimentary, but with a single click Win 98 would change colors, the cursor, the entire sound pallette and even button images iirc. I was particularly fond of the Computer theme and the Space theme lol

TrickDacy,

You’re right except button images. That wasn’t a thing. But you could change fonts which I’d forgotten. My point though is that the things they let you change were pretty limited.

kuneho,
@kuneho@lemmy.world avatar

my memories are kinda foggy, but using Plus! in 98, some themes (like the space one) did change the dialog images, too, didn’t they? (so the info bubble, red circle X, yellow triangle exclamation mark etc)

TrickDacy,

That might have been true. I’m referring to the settings you could change in control panel, without any additional software.

kuneho,
@kuneho@lemmy.world avatar

I haven’t considered Microsoft Plus! as a separate software for some reason, but fair point.

TrickDacy,

Yeah I think some PCs came with Plus bundled/pre-installed. I got a copy from a friend at one point years into the 98 era, but otherwise never used Plus.

tophneal, (edited )

I remember running a 3rd party shell in windows 2000. It worked most of the time and had some cool widgets. When it crashed explorer would take its place.

TrickDacy,

Yeah, I used some theme apps on windows. Sadly, they crashed semi often and were a bit slow the rest of the time

tophneal,

Oh yeah, they crashed constantly and would run slow af if you restarted them after a crash, without rebooting

ordellrb,

Monopoly happened

dan,
@dan@upvote.au avatar

In my opinion, it peaked in Windows XP. XP’s themes were way more customizable than 98’s. You could patch the uxtheme DLL (disable the signature check) to allow third-party themes.

acockworkorange,

I miss the sound themes. The animal theme was really cool with its sounds.

fluckx,

The thing that tilted me the most on macbook was that I had to install a 3rd party tool to have shortcuts to move apps between screens. SERIOUSLY?

It’s a free app, but still.

joneskind,
@joneskind@lemmy.world avatar

Linux users using Gnome Tweaks to make their PC look exactly like macOS.

When I’m not working on my Mac I enjoy the sheer simplicity of Sway

possiblylinux127,

Why would you want that? Gnome is way better

redcalcium,

Tweaking gnome to look like macos is easy. Turning kde to look like macos? Now that’s dope.

joneskind,
@joneskind@lemmy.world avatar

Cairo + global-menu and a little bit of taskbar rearrangement should do the trick

Juice64,
@Juice64@lemmy.world avatar

Got to remember that most windows and Mac users aren’t even aware of the bloat. I don’t know how many times I’ve gotten on my mom’s pc that she said was going slow and found countless extensions, tool bars and off brand programs installed. Between her being in her 50s and her grand kids hopping on and clicking everything, nobody knows or gives a damn.

HStone32,

“I need a computer that jUsT wOrKs”

BolexForSoup,
BolexForSoup avatar

All I know is I booted Mint OS after getting several reccs for it, and the first thing I was greeted to was my Wi-Fi card not working, my keyboard couldn’t light up, and no right click lol.

I have since learned more and am enjoying Linux. But let’s not pretend it’s just some sort of fire and forget solution. Which a lot of people want at the end of the day. Even booting onto an older Intel Mac can be a real pain in the ass.

boredsquirrel,

Did you ever install Windows manually? Often drivers are also missing, just that Windows actually doesnt care and you need to search on some random vendor websites.

Or even build drivers into the install ISO, like with my Thinkpad.

I literally installed Windows on another laptop and just switched the SSDs, as it wouldnt install without the “magic AMD platform drivers”.

BolexForSoup,
BolexForSoup avatar

yes, it’s currently dual booted on my Intel Mac. Took about 10 minutes of effort then a bunch of waiting around. Had a Valheim server running that day as well as a few other games installed and tested. No drivers needed, though I’m sure that happens to folks. This was windows 10 about 2 years ago

boredsquirrel,

And btw nobody recommended Mint here XD please dont

BolexForSoup,
BolexForSoup avatar

My dude it was the lemmy and mastodon communities that pushed me there lol

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