UlrikeHahn,

I can't help but wonder whether the real implication of #ratgate is the realisation of how much the model of #OpenScience people have been working toward is threatened by the advent of #LLMs -
full #OpenAccess suddenly means not just access for people, but also training machines, and the more those can generate content (including online post-peer review comments!) and flood the ecosystem, the more gate keeping will be required

it feels to me like the implications are profound

@open_science

knutson_brain,
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@UlrikeHahn @open_science
Prediction : A wave of #LLM-regurgitated #enshittification is about to hit the #scientific literature, and the less-curated outlets (e.g., preprint servers, #MDPI , #Hindawi , #Frontiers) are the lowlands …

feinstruktur,
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@UlrikeHahn @open_science I would argue there is a fine difference between #OpenAccess to the public and #FreeUse for businesses.

UlrikeHahn,

@feinstruktur

I think many people have that intuition (I myself do), the problem I see is about making that difference stick in practice (if that's what one wants to do). I don't think that's easy and I'm inclined to suspect that neither the regulatory nor the technical tools we currently have are fit for purpose for enabling that.

Brendanjones,
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@UlrikeHahn @feinstruktur No need to suspect, you’re 109% correct that the necessary regulations aren’t in place.

Edit: whoops should proofread before sending, but ‘109%’ is funny so I’ll leave it.

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