knurd42

@knurd42@social.linux.pizza

Tooting about Free & Open source software, Fedora and its derivatives as well as IT in general – and sometimes about Life, the Universe, and Everything, too.

Topic account. Other accounts of mine:

https://fosstodon.org/@kernellogger (EN): #LinuxKernel and related areas like #mesa, #wayland, #qemu
https://norden.social/@thleemhuis (DE): Das Leben, das Universum und der ganze Rest
https://social.tchncs.de/@thleemhuisfoss (DE): #FLOSS

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knurd42, to GNOME

Pablo Correa Gomez: On how to fork a #GNOME Core app without meaning to do so

https://blogs.gnome.org/pabloyoyoista/2024/01/26/on-how-to-fork-a-gnome-core-app-without-meaning-to-do-so/

"'"And if you did not know already, that Core app is #Evince, now renamed to #Papers and submitted to Incubation this week. But if you’re still interested after the spoiler, let’s start from the beginning."'"

knurd42, to random

This applies to people from some parts of northern Germany as well -- including the one I came from (which is just a few kilometres away from the border to the Netherlands anyway).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrEZwe1nbBU

knurd42, to fedora

For users of stable releases out there that might encounter a regression with 6.8-* (now or once it becomes stable):

My vanilla mainline now keeps all daily snapshots around that were build during the merge window. That way you won't have to bisect over the whole range of the merge window to find the culprit , as you can narrow down the bisection range easily with these really available packages.

https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/g/kernel-vanilla/mainline/builds/

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Kernel_Vanilla_Repositories

knurd42,

Side note: yes, you can do the same with the rawhide builds found in koji as well. But those are not vanilla, which sometimes makes a difference (but in the Fedora case often does not).

https://kparal.wordpress.com/2023/08/15/bisecting-fedora-kernel/

knurd42, (edited ) to fedora

The brand new 6.7[1] is now available in my vanilla repositories for .

To install it on @fedora, follow the instructions on https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Kernel_Vanilla_Repositories#Install_the_latest_Linux_version_meant_for_end_users

[1] see https://fosstodon.org/@kernellogger/111718525521838527

1/ BTW: the…

knurd42,

2/ …kernel vanilla repos for Fedora finally started shipping the kernel-tools stuff recently (e.g. bpftool, perf, ...).

Furthermore, new mainline releases from now on are shipped in the stable repo again: it seems that's what people want/expect. It was like that until two or three years ago, but then I stopped doing that because the Linux stable team sometimes was slow to pick up maintenance for new mainline releases; but that situation improved a lot, so I'm rolling back.

knurd42, to random

Happy Holidays!

knurd42, to random

going to lose access to its image server: https://lore.kernel.org/all/a0db38ec-347d-4b26-97a2-e77d679f05fe@gentoo.org/

"'"[…] Canonical re-licensed LXD […] Because LinuxContainers community can't lean on to LXD, they've decided not to build and publish LXD images anymore. Non-LTS LXD will gradually start losing access to these images immediately in 2024, while LTS LXD is allowed until ~April-May of 2024 to have a fair chance migrating into LTS, which is expected to be out in April 2024. […]"'"

knurd42, to random

The @opensuse project announced that there will be a new vote on the logo:

"[…] there is a plan to organize a vote between the current logo and the proposed new design, allowing our community to have a say in this important decision. Furthermore, members of the project are collaborating with SUSE on the implications of the branding initiatives and some have expressed the desire for SUSE’s input to ensure there is an aligned vision for the future of openSUSE. […]"

https://news.opensuse.org/2023/12/15/insights-from-the-os-logo-contest/

knurd42, to linux

"'"There's a decent number of laptops with readers that are supported by , and has some nice integration to make use of that for authentication purposes. But if you log in with a fingerprint, the moment you start any app that wants to access stored passwords you'll get a prompt asking you to type in your password, which feels like it somewhat defeats the point. Mac users don't have this problem […] Why the difference?"'"

https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/68537.html (by @mjg59)

knurd42, to random

1.0 – An interview with @pipewire creator Wim Taymans. https://fedoramagazine.org/pipewire-1-0-an-interview-with-pipewire-creator-wim-taymans/

knurd42, to fedora

The page about the vanilla repositories for now describes how to use the repos on and other Fedora variants based on rpm-ostree: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Kernel_Vanilla_Repositories#Instructions_for_immutable_Fedora-variants_like_Silverblue_or_Kinoite

There is just a problem: it doesn't really work well currently.

If you for example try to enable the mainline copr it will fail; if you do that on Fedora workstation, you will get the latest package from the mainline-wo-merge copr, as intended. With stable-rc it works, but you get an outdated kernel.

knurd42,

@siosm, if you have a minute, do you maybe have an idea how to work around the problem the toot above briefly mentions?

The problem happens because "rpm-ostree overlay replace --experimental --from repo=…" afaics does not handle copr runtime dependencies. Those are needed to properly support the kernel vanilla repositories, as the right packages for users of some of the coprs are sometimes found in coprs that are a runtime dependency.

Screenshot from https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Kernel_Vanilla_Repositories#Linux_kernels_offered_in_the_six_kernel_vanilla_coprs

knurd42,

@siosm

I used that as base for some tests and the instruction linked in the initial toot, just omitted the "--freeze".

And for mainline-wo-mergew this will work correctly for round about 9 our of 10 weeks (e.g. when a new mainline release is out before the first stable release comes out, which then should be installed from the stable-rc and stable repos.

knurd42,

@siosm

Took me a few days, but did so now. Hopefully it describes the problem I face better.

https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/how-to-properly-use-the-kernel-vanilla-repos-on-rpm-ostree-based-fedora-variants/97581

knurd42, to random

Things I like:

When my Linux machines are able to send me a mail when needed, for example when the automatic backup fails.

Things I hate:

Configuring my Linux machines to send emails to my regular Inbox, because it's painful.

knurd42,

reg "painful": yes, maybe I have not find the simple solution yet that is simple to setup and maintain.

But every time someone suggested a simple solution to me in the past I ran into some trouble with it.

knurd42,

@Seraphyn

That's actually what I do, but every time I have to deal with it something is not working as it's supposed to do

Which is my fault, as I don't know this stuff well enough. But there are only so many hours in a days. :-/

knurd42, (edited )

@Seraphyn

if you have a minute, maybe you can help me with one of my annoying problems:

some local services I run send mail to thl@{localhost,localhost-localdomain,foobar.fritz.box,foobar}, which obviously will cause trouble if that mail is forwarded to an external box without address rewriting.

How to I fix this without listing all the possible domain names manually, as I might not know them in advance?

A simple

thl baz@example.com

in /etc/postfix/generic afaics doesn't to the tick.

knurd42,

@johanneskastl

remind me again: smart host is a relayhost in the local network that that then delivers mail locally or forwards it to another relayhost at my ISP?

Yeah, that how I ideally would things to work as well and even had them at some point, but for good or bad reasons (some trouble?) I started to struggle with it again. Maybe it was due to the problems outlined here:

https://social.linux.pizza/@knurd42/111425500827728379

knurd42,

@johanneskastl

and Ansible: yeah, that at one point was the plan and I even got there to a certain degree, but then something more important came up.

It's always the "time spend on learning a new tool and staying on top of it" vs "time saved by the tool". And for my case I doubt that the ratio is good.

knurd42,

@johanneskastl

That won't work with dhcp based hostnames I fail to anticipate; and it also feels kinda tedious/stupid to do so for "(all users) * (all hostnames I can anticipate)"

knurd42,

@johanneskastl

no worries; and yes, that's what I'm doing already and works well, apart from the mentioned case

knurd42,

@johanneskastl

yeah, that was the path I was heading towards to, too, but then life happened :-D

knurd42,

@johanneskastl

To quote from my toot:
"""
A simple

thl baz@example.com

in /etc/postfix/generic afaics doesn't to the tick.
"""

But maybe I did something stupid while testing this.

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