"If you just imagine teleporting yourself back to 1970, and somone who was looking forward to the PC revolution - which was going to happen in just a few years - was like 'alright, we're not going to have entire rooms full of computer stuff anymore, and you're not going to have a mainframe that you connect to to do everything. Everything's going to work on these little boxes people have in their home'."
"Well, fast forward to today, and actually the people who were doing the mainframe stuff - even though during the 80s that wasn't happening - here we are right back again, where there's giant rooms full of computer stuff and everyone does effectively go to the mainframe to get their data."