/r/ask_transgender calls people who refuse to vote for Genocide Joe "anarcho-kiddies"

Facebones, 2 months ago

I keep seeing these narratives from vulnerable communities about Dems being their only hope. I hate that they can’t see how rightward dems are marching, they’re only an election cycle or two away from facing the same threats from dems as they do Republicans.

Awoo, 2 months ago

If liberals incite anarchists enough with lib insults like anarcho-kiddies it will drive a wedge between them and radicalise a lot of the baby-anarchists into proper revleft anarchists.

Critical support to liberals fucking up their relationship with the only buttress holding back a huge tide of people from radicalising more significantly.

Owl, 2 months ago

I hope “anarkiddy” becomes the new “tankie” and all the MLs in the audience have to put up with being called it. It’s only fair that we swap once in a while.

buckykat, 2 months ago

rage-cry

queermunist, 2 months ago

ngl I’ll actually probably get mad the first few times that happens lol

GarbageShoot, 2 months ago

Hey, this is totally off-topic to the thread, but your mentioning being an ML reminded me that I’ve been meaning to ask you: Where did you get that imperialists need to actively under-develop the countries they exploit for it to be imperialism? My leftcom buddies insist that even if they are contributing to the development of a country’s MoP, they can still be doing imperialism. I broadly agree with you but don’t have the, uh, theoretical competence that you might have.

TreadOnMe, 2 months ago

Not the person, but for a leftcom (and even more strictly applied ML theory) imperialism is when you have a different ‘economic zone’ that applies to another country. Essentially it is when you have ‘rules for thee but not for me’. The classical mercantile imperial model develops the extractive industries of a colony, while the actual processing industry exists at home. You use cheap labor in the colony to extract the materials, refine them back at home, and then sell them back to the colony, rather than developing the colonies ability to feed and educate itself, and then also develop it’s means of production. Instead, MoP is developed mostly for the benefit of the colonizer. This is also maintained through different labor laws applying to these different zones, which are then enforced with extreme prejudice, which is the hallmark of imperialism. This is laid out in Lenin’s ‘Imperialism’.

Now, what leftcoms usually miss imo is the part where it is an outside force that is enforcing this through violence. For example, many leftcoms believe that what China is doing is ‘imperialism’ especially since it often relies on creating differently taxes economic zones within areas of Africa (or more pedantically saying that the communist party elites have sold out the proletariat of China to the highest bidder on the international market). While there is an argument to be made there, I think the important thing to note is that China does not (or at least hasn’t yet) enforced their deals in Africa with military force, but instead through long term structural development deals where they develop the infrastructure of country on the cheap (because excess construction labor is something they have in abundance) in exchange for these economic zones where their population can immigrate to and work. It ultimately a win-win imo, and looks fundamentally different than previous versions of imperialism. Additionally, despite ‘selling out their proletariat’ the Chinese Communist Party has demonstratively not given up their control over the means of production and it’s development. Wether you agree with it or not, what is happening to them is not ‘imperialism’, it’s something else.

queermunist, 2 months ago

Capitalist development (i.e. investment in equipment and materials) is where the tendency for the rate of profit to fall comes from; as the amount of fixed capital increases in the system (machines, infrastructure, education, etc) the less labor is needed to produce the same quantity of commodities. As labor is the source of all value, reducing the labor inputs actually reduces the value of the physical output of the system.

Underdevelopment is a tactic whereby this process is undercut by deploying counteracting factors to reduce the rate at which profit falls, chiefly superexploitation of the workers and immiseration of the population. Instead of investing in fixed capital to extract resources and reduce the need for human labor (i.e. development), imperialism sidesteps the problem by using military and police instead.

Within the imperial core the tendency of the rate of profit to fall is also counteracted because the resource colony cheapens the elements of constant capital, industrial inputs, and consumer goods. Even better, underdevelopment increases migration away from imperialized nations towards the core, increasing the surplus army of labor and allowing for the creation of internal colonies of superexploited workers within the imperial core itself! This allows for further capitalist development within the imperial core without reducing the rate of profit because, while labor inputs decrease for the core workers, they remain constant or increase for imperialized workers.

… at least, that’s as much as I understand. Still need to read more theory.

EllenKelly, 2 months ago

I get very frustrated in community spaces when i’m called an anarchist for just being there, it’d be so much worse from a lib 🤢

frauddogg, 2 months ago

1. Isn’t designed in such a way that would allow a third-party candidate a genuine chance of winning

Then it can die.

2. Has too many centrists that will vote for Biden regardless.

Then it (and all of the centrists still setting time tables on our liberation, while we’re at it) can die too.

Death to anyone who votes for EITHER tribe of capital. Death to the Presidency. Death to the settler empire. Till all are fed and all have beds, my skin is Black, my star is Red.

First of all, Israel is only committing genocide in the same sense that we did immediately post 9/11.

Oooh, the self-snitching is peak today. I love watching people admit Amerika’s just as genocidal as the monsters they’ve claimed to fight.

Again, in three years when Trump’s god gestapo throw us all into camps because he decided being queer is against god’s will, I hope you look fondly on this moralizing.

Someone tell these cancerous ladder-pullin crackers that skinfolk (or in this case, supposedly-ideological skinfolk, 'cause I don’t believe these genocidaires bonafides) is most certainly not kinfolk; and that we have no interest in washing our hands in their trough of blood. I don’t think they’re internalizing it.

When I die, I’ll be able to look the divine I worship in the eye and account for, stand on everything I’ve done and said like it’s my business; and ‘opposing the genocidal and monstrous’ will be one of them. These crackers will not be able to say the same.

ashinadash, 2 months ago

First of all, Israel is only committing genocide in the same sense that we did immediately post 9/11.

My fuckin eyes popped out of my head when I saw that. That’s not a defense…

queermunist, 2 months ago

It’s incredible how close they were to realizing something really important, but then just serve into genocide apologia.

Great_Leader_Is_Dead, 2 months ago

Funny cuz most of the anarchists on reddit-logo are the ones screaming at you to vote for Joe.

ashinadash, 2 months ago

“Ash why is hexbear the only trans space you visit?” shrug-outta-hecks

sharedburdens, 2 months ago

But have you considered the perspective that voting in literal fascists makes communism more possible somehow?

People are fed up with the endless support for genocide and war, with high interest rates, rent and inflation. Democrats being in power has done basically nothing to stop the right wing takeover in states .

I don’t think I’ve ever run into someone with the position that voting one way or another is going to make communism happen faster though.

queermunist, 2 months ago

I can imagine the argument that Trump will destroy America and therefore he’d be good for communism, but I don’t think I’ve seen that position articulated by real people instead of imaginary accelerationists.

Lemmygradwontallowme, 2 months ago

Reclaim the term ‘anarcho-kiddies’, y’all!

They said the term! meow-anarchist

Edit: not “anarkiddies” but “anarcho-kiddies”

PointAndClique, 2 months ago

They didn’t even they ballsed it and said anarcho-kiddies

Lemmygradwontallowme, 2 months ago

What’s the difference?

PointAndClique, 2 months ago

Anarkiddies rolls off the tongue better as a portmanteau of anarchy + kiddy, hinged on the ‘k’ sound shared by both words = anar-ch-iddy, saying anarcho-kiddy misses that entirely and sounds stale.

Second edit: there’s no functional difference in meaning though.