pyre,

as the saying goes: play EA games, win EA prizes

Blackmist,

Steam should allow you to download older versions when companies pull bullshit like this.

FonsNihilo,

They do.

You need to install some valve program but it is 100% possible to go back to a previous version of a game on steam.

Buddahriffic,

Woah, really? I had just noticed that the play button is replaced by an update button when there’s one pending and was a bit frustrated because my gap between playing paradox game sessions is long enough that it usually says my last save might not work.

How is it for figuring out which version you need to go back to? Like would it be enough to use a file timestamp to match it to the version you would have used at that time?

Etterra,

The kind of people who like competitive video games -especially sports - are the same kind of jerkasses that used to bully actual fans of video games in the 80s-90s. So enjoy your busted-ass FIFA lol

randomaside,
@randomaside@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I think it’s hilarious with the market for Linux handhelds this hot that these companies are still like “ew no thanks”

woelkchen,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

I think it’s hilarious with the market for Linux handhelds this hot that these companies are still like “ew no thanks”

I don’t think the technical details reach the people making the decisions. They may have heard “Steam Deck works with PC games” (because there is no distinction between PC and Windows for them) and then don’t allocate resources for a proper port to Steam Deck.

doona,

Surely there isn’t that big of a cheating problem in a fucking rally driving video game, to the point where you need ring 0 anti cheat?

Regardless, this rise in invasive anti cheat is getting seriously annoying. I hope the right person gets pissed off and finds a way to make them run on Linux for the sake of the rest of the community, but even still, I’ll continue to play single player experiences and leave my mental health intact.

Hugh_Jeggs,

Every single version of DiRT Rally has MASSIVE cheating problems

Really spoiled the online stages

woelkchen,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

Really spoiled the online stages

And now this change spoils single player.

MajorHavoc,

How dumb does one have to be to intentionally drop support for the hotest game console if the year?!

It boggles my mind.

Also, as a non-pirate (by laziness, not by conviction), I feel like I’m being offered an eye patch, a hook and a parrot every time I interact with a AAA game publisher.

Edit: I keep half expecting EA or Capcom to publish a press release outlining their favorite ways to obtain their games without paying, in order to work-around their own bullshit DRM. It’s bizarre that they really think this crap is helping them.

voracitude,

I think they just got tired of everyone hating Blizzard and Sony, and decided to remind us all that we used to hate EA the most.

Gestrid,

I’m curious if they still have the most downvoted comment on Reddit.

Edit: Yep.

woelkchen,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

Yet another proof that Proton is a great stop-gap solution but Valve should be pushing game publishers to make native Linux ports.

Fubarberry,
@Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz avatar

If a company isn’t willing to support steam deck/Linux through an easier support option like proton, I highly doubt they’ll be willing to support it with higher effort native ports.

woelkchen,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

Valve isn’t promoting native ports in the first place and suits only know “Works with Windows games, we don’t need to care about details”.

TheEntity,

They already tried that in the Steam Machines era. It clearly wasn’t working.

woelkchen,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

They already tried that in the Steam Machines era. It clearly wasn’t working.

Steam Deck is way more successful than 3rd party Steam Machines. The comparison makes zero sense because it ignores all developments since then.

TheEntity,

It would be just as (un)popular as the Steam Machines if it wasn’t for Proton, that’s my whole point.

woelkchen,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

It would be just as (un)popular as the Steam Machines if it wasn’t for Proton, that’s my whole point.

Which part of “Proton is a great stop-gap solution” makes you think I’m opposed to Proton?

xavier666,

As a hardcore Linux fan, the only way I see game devs publishing native Linux ports is when when it has a >30% market share.

But I’m pretty sure the publishers will still come up with excuses like “The Linux platform is uncontrollable; there is no way to verify the platform integrity because everyone has root”

woelkchen,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

As a hardcore Linux fan, the only way I see game devs publishing native Linux ports is when when it has a >30% market share.

For Valve Linux isn’t just another OS. It’s their Steam Deck platform which they could promote towards publishers the same way as console makers promote their platforms. This story once again shows that chasing Windows compatibility without using Windows is a stepping stone but not the final answer.

arthur,

The cost to maintain “native” ports is too high to make sense for most developers.

PS: Proton also makes it easier to preserve games since an “native” port would become incompatible overtime without work to adapt the software to changes in the system it’s running.

woelkchen,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

The cost to maintain “native” ports is too high to make sense for most developers.

If that was the case, no console ports would exist, except maybe Xbox because Xbox uses modified Windows internally.

Proton also makes it easier to preserve games since an “native” port would become incompatible overtime without work to adapt the software to changes in the system it’s running.

Inform yourself what Steam Linux Runtime is before making such comments. You are 100% wrong.

arthur,

Inform yourself what Steam Linux Runtime is before making such comments. You are 100% wrong.

If a game depends on an API and this API gets discontinued, without adaptation it will have problems. That’s true for any software and any system. As a compatibility layer, Proton can keep old games compatible despite the system changes when it translates the API calls that the games depend on to what the base system has to offer. (I’m not talking necessarily of a game running on Steam in this case)

So, enlighten me, where am I wrong?

woelkchen,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

So, enlighten me, where am I wrong?

So you’re too lazy to read up on Steam Linux Runtimes and expect me to explain it to you? SLR 1.0 Scout keeps full binary compatibility to Ubuntu 12.04, so 12 years already. SLR APIs don’t change. That’s the point. Get a clue.

arthur,

If that was the case, no console ports would exist, except maybe Xbox because Xbox uses modified Windows internally.

news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18845205

https://lemmy.zip/pictrs/image/2c844d56-ed98-47d5-a4e0-59e802109f65.webp

woelkchen,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

Ports aren’t individual products on Steam.

proton_lynx,

How fucking idiot would you have to be to complain about users sending bug reports. Linux users usually send very detailed bug reports, which can uncover bugs that might happen on all platforms.

jukibom,

auto reported crashes

woelkchen,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

auto reported crashes

publisher disables crash reporter

https://a.pinatafarm.com/600x494/b70f9389a3/guy-tapping-head.jpg/m/522x0#img.jpg

Bookmeat,

He should have complained to the graphics hardware manufacturers and pushed to get them to release more open source drivers for their hardware. Instead, he bitches about Linux instead of the problem root.

woelkchen, (edited )
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

Instead, he bitches about Linux instead of the problem root.

  1. Game company funds through Kickstarter.
  2. Game company reaches goal from taking money from Linux users.
  3. Game company releases a shoddy port that crashes
  4. Sales data shows that customers don’t wanna buy a separate SKU of a game that crashes all the time
  5. LInUx bAd!!!

Also this is a Steam Deck community. It should be obvious that all discussion around native games centers around stable Steam Deck hardware specs, SteamOS, and the Steam Linux Runtime container solution for games released on Steam, not some buggy (and mediocre) game from a literal decade ago released as tar.gz file into the wild.

Tanoh,

You are getting downvoted by people that have no idea how software development and maintence works.

Every feature cost. More than most people realise. Both in development time and to maintain it over time and releases. It all adds up, not saying EA are correct in not supporting it. But to think it is free is just incorrect.

They made a business decision to not support it. We think it is the wrong decision, but it is ultimately theirs to make.

woelkchen, (edited )
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

But to think it is free is just incorrect.

Did anybody say that making Linux ports is free? I certainly didn’t. I said that native Linux ports lead to a better consumer experience which cannot be denied as seen with the submitted story about the Rally game.

Also Arthur made his obliviousness regarding Steam Linux Runtimes very clear by claiming that they were affected by changing Linux APIs all the time. That claim is just factually wrong.

Tanoh,

That seems to be the general atmosphere, “leaving money”. They probably analysed it and thought it wasn’t worth the effort. Companies like to make money after all.

woelkchen,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

They probably analysed it and thought it wasn’t worth the effort. Companies like to make money after all.

If all the economic news from the games industry from the last year or so should have taught you anything: No. Shortsighted whims of shareholders are not proper financial analysis. The same people who also concluded years ago that leaving Steam and going exclusively to Origin was a good idea are definitively not the sharpest tools in the shed.

Telorand,

Imagine being so insanely wealthy, you can afford to leave money on the table and shoot yourself in the foot at the same time. Disgusting.

thingsiplay,

This is the equivalent of Sony requiring PSN account in countries where no PSN account exist. Just on a different technical level, but with the same outcome. This should be illegal.

RenardDesMers,
@RenardDesMers@lemmy.ml avatar

I’m surprised Valve hasn’t pushed a condition about this in their contracts stating that they can get a Verified badge only if they agree to keep the Steamdeck as a supported platform.

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