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@SoniEx2 @cloudlab @sachindhke An excellent question that I can only speculate on right now, in part because our study only covers IPv4, and in part because I expect the landscape to change, but it's hard to predict exactly how.

In the short term, switching ssh and other services to #IPv6 only will likely reduce the brute force attacks you see by a lot. Our data suggests that attackers are hitting the IPv4 space at random, which is a perfectly good strategy for the relatively dense IPv4 space, but a terrible strategy for the gigantic IPv6 space. If I were an attacker doing brute force, I'd stick to the IPv4 space that's easy and has plenty of targets.

However, let's consider more sophisticated attackers, and/or a future world where we've moved entirely to IPv6. There are lots of things you can do to cut down the scanning space. Most IPv6 space is not even allocated, so you can just skip that. You can focus on specific prefixes used by large ISPs and cloud providers to increase your hit rate. You can use information about the way some devices use MAC addresses to generate part of their public address to target popular NIC and or IoT vendors. You can keep track of live IP addresses based on observed connections (eg. scan everyone who connects to your website.) You can try to enumerate DNS domains to look for targets (most DNS servers try to prevent this, but there are all kinds of attacks on DNS). You can share lists of the live addresses you find. And these are just off the top of my head, I'm sure people have come up with plenty more already, and will find plenty more in the future.

So, will we eventually reach a point where IPv6 scanning is as effective as IPv4 scanning is today? It seems unlikely, but scanning the entire IPv4 space in minutes seemed unlikely not too long ago. So in the long term, I wouldn't bet on security that depends on IPv6 being hard to scan. I would expect that we'll all want to keep up the same strategies of using keys, blocking attackers that we detect, etc.

One thing I would expect is for the patterns to change: right now acquiring a target is easy, so attacks that just try once and move on are common. On IPv6 - both now and in the future - I'd expect that the difficulty of finding targets means that once you find one, you're going to try a lot more usernames and passwords on it.

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