MagASEAN & getting around the threadi/fediverse

cendawanita, 11 months ago

On posting from outside/kbin radar tracking relevant content

(I'll go on the m/kbinmeta to note this) Mastodon builds and its forks seem to federate content the best, but the main issue is in receiving content that matches a magazine's parameters (its address or tracked hashtags). There's clearly an accidental delimiter in action; it scans the first @ or # in a message and moves on. This is troublesome for posts that's meant to cover multiple interests, as well as interrupting comment exchange behaviour. something to note.

melroy, 9 months ago

You post in the wrong magazine..

cendawanita, 11 months ago

Just adding the post I made on updated tags being tracked on fedi: https://kbin.social/m/magASEAN/p/739715

ds12, 11 months ago

Hello and apa khabar from a fellow Malaysian from the Beehaw instance of Lemmy! Excited to see SEA representation, let alone a Malaysian one in the Fediverse! =)

cendawanita, 11 months ago

@ds12 helloooooo
You might be interested to know that monyet.cc also exists!!

dannekrose, 11 months ago

@cendawanita
I updated my FAQ in kbinfaqs@kilioa.org with more clarification on following magazines from microblogging platforms like Mastodon or Calckey.

It’s more an issue with the microblogging platforms.

cendawanita, 11 months ago

@dannekrose thank you! I will go have a read

testing, 11 months ago

@cendawanita
it is possible to follow the activities on a kbin mag from outside

i am sorry that i have not mentioned rss: https://kbin.social/rss?magazine=magASEAN

rss feeds are readily available for kbin, making it easy to follow what's going on even if you are not logged in to kbin.social

i use rss all the time, so things were all too clear to me, and i did not give it a second thought when kbin would not spam my timeline, and i was just fine with it

once again: if you want to follow the kbin magazine magASEAN, go for rss, and type: https://kbin.social/rss?magazine=magASEAN

the rss feed will deliver all threads posted to magASEAN, but not microblog posts > once again: i am fine with it, because kbin does not spam my timeline, unlike a.gup.pe, chirp.social or friendica groups, let alone lemmy!

caveat: be aware that the rss feed is case-sensitive - it must be magASEAN! if you are using firefox: firefox auto-corrects case-sensitive urls > to heal this, go directly into the adress bar and type magASEAN manually

cendawanita, 11 months ago

Excellent news for RSS users! I'm still thinking about ppl like those like my main fedi account XD who would expect their follows activity to be updated on their timeline

testing, 11 months ago

@cendawanita
you are right, and i step away from boldly claiming that kbin were a pretty straight forward experience: no, it obviously is not, even less so if you may never have even heard of reddit, of threaded posts, or rss/atom, not to mention tricky differences between articles and posts on kbin

kbin has a learning curve to it, but it is really rewarding!

compared to kbin, lemmy is super easy to understand: you follow a lemmy community, tag it, and that's it - but lemmy will break your timeline! each post submitted to a lemmy community will be boosted twice (2x)! this is far from happy fedi life, and shit no, i do not want this!

kbin has a very different approach, and while it may happen that you would not check what's going on at a kbin mag all the time, you would give it a glimpse once in a while, which makes kbin a relaxed affair and a great archive, of course ❤️

testing, 11 months ago

@cendawanita
one addendum: friendica users can follow https://kbin.social/rss?magazine=magASEAN directly and can view new kbin articles in their timelines

testing, 11 months ago

rss feed on friendica fetching an article from kbin

this how an article on kbin fetched by an rss feed looks like on a friendica timeline

cendawanita, 11 months ago (edited 11 months ago)

Mirror from my main:

the #fediverse might include the #threadiverse but while following #Lemmy communities (i.e. sub) from my current fedi account will show ALL activity on the community, following a kbin magazine (i.e. sub) from this account shows NO activity on my feed.

I can engage with activity from either protocols from this account however as commenter.

If you're on either threadiverse protocols, you can follow external subs as federated content and engage fully (up/downvotes; comments; sort) plus the usual fedi behaviour in following other fedi accounts.

Conclusion (if like me, you're reluctant to do duplicate/mirror accounts in general): if you want to also follow link-aggregator fedi platforms and their subs, open an account in any of the L/k instances and follow the local or federated subs from that account.

Other things that may need saying:

• vanilla Masto doesn't render HTML or Markdown formatting so fedi accounts on that protocol will always see plain text versions. Some Masto forks will honour formatting, while most other fedi protocols have no issues rendering (and these days you will likely be interacting accounts coming from the Calckey/Misskey/Akkoma/Pleroma/WriteFreely protocols anyway, or they'll be using clients that can render formatting)

• microblog will scrape fedi content that has the tag it's looking for, but there's a tag primacy delimiter. I can't find it in the documentation but i know it will look for the first tag in the post for sure. This is going to impact auto discoverability by microblog route as many posts come with multiple hashtags. The fedi protocols optimized for microblogging like masto has no such tag primacy rule which is why a frequent advice is to follow hashtags.

• some non-masto fedi protocols, like kbin, can write posts with the Title attribute. That means if you write such a post and tag this magazine, it will also be posted/sent directly to the Thread section. Others can also post directly to magazines (and Lemmy communities) but the Post-status of the content will automatically send it to the Microblog section.