Levils,

Hey tkon99, this is Levils - I created the financial modelling subreddit.

Nice work setting up this Lemmy spot as a backup, but please do not split the group by advertising it anywhere outside of Lemmy. We had to quickly choose a single place to point any hardcore modelling enthusiasts to during the reddit strike, and the chosen place was squabbles.io/s/FinancialModelling.

As mentioned on the first post at Squabbles:

  • (I realise this is repeating part of the prior paragraph) For now please don’t suggest other communities/platforms etc. The subreddit is reluctantly on strike, we do not want to split the community further. This is the campsite for the moment.
  • There is a risk that the strike goes on for too long and the community splinters or permanently relocates. I hope that does not happen, and it does then we will cross that bridge together via group discussion, probably [on Squabbles].

Lemmy was considered as the interim spot and, if Reddit goes the way of Digg, then there is a good chance we end up here. It is obviously a great idea to have a financial group on Lemmy both now and on an ongoing basis, as a lot of people who sign up to any financial modelling group are moderately interested in it - they might be inclined to join if it’s on a platform they are already on (whether that be Reddit or Lemmy etc) but generally not sign up to a platform just to join the financial modelling group. For the few hardcores however, please do not split them by suggesting there are multiple alternatives - currently Squabbles is the place.

So just to be clear:

  • If the Reddit admin team comes around in a timely fashion and the strike ends in an orderly manner without losing too many subscribers, we’ll just reopen the subreddit like normal.
  • If not, then we’ll have a discussion on Squabbles to decide where the ‘official’ permanent new home is, and there is a good chance that it will be on Lemmy.

Additionally, our one longstanding rule is ‘No piracy’. If you’re on board with this then please delete all the posts and comments that you copied from Reddit - in my opinion it’s not ok to copy from other people like that even with the best intentions. Great if you take the time to paraphrase and give credit, but not so much if it just copying without attribution - and I authored some of the content you copied.

Finally, assuming you’re on board with the piracy and copying thing, it’s hard to find motivated moderators - would you like to join the team on Reddit and Squabbles? There is very little work in it, just good to have more people with mod rights so that obvious spam is more likely to be quickly removed.—

tkon99,

Hi Levils, thank you for replying!

Firstly, I understand and appreciate that you want to keep the community together, however my concern is that people are not moving to squabbles and/or will not look at it whenever shit actually hits the fan at Reddit. That’s mainly why I created the community here, Lemmy is fast growing and under consideration by the various 3rd party apps currently focused on Reddit as a platform to switch to. Hence a large influx of users is expected. Either way, I take your point that we should provide guidance in a central way to maximize our chances of keeping the community together and won’t advertize elsewhere.

Secondly, the community and its most dedicated members ought to think twice about posting to Reddit if the platform is changing in the way it is currently. I have left Reddit out of principle and will not return unless all changes are reverted. I can imagine there a quite a few people like me, particularly those that post content. Offering people a home on the most popular alternative is therefore also a key goal here. I don’t believe this fragments our community it just gives us more places to discuss.

Lastly regarding piracy, I was in a hurry yesterday and hence did not give credit. Copyright lies with Reddit by the way, so it depends on how you feel about piracy/whether you consider this piracy. In terms of credit, I take your point and have removed the posts and comments for now. Whenever I have the time I will repost them with proper attribution/paraphrasing.

Most subreddits permanently leaving Reddit are also removing all their content, hence why making a backup elsewhere can also be positive. Not saying this will happen, but would be a shame to lose the knowledge base we have developed over the years.

Thank you for offering the mod position. I do not have a lot of time on my hands right now but happy to help out where I can. I believe my handle is tkon99 in all platforms.

Thanks again and please let me know if there’s any other changes you’d like to see here.

Levils,

Hey, I replied on Squabbles so just on the bits that are additional here:

  • I think we are agreed on it being a good idea to have set up the Lemmy, welcoming anyone who finds it and not pushing them to any other place, anticipating that Lemmy will probably have the fastest growth at the moment, elsewhere leaving guidance that Squabbles is the sole ‘official’ place for now, and that if the Reddit strike continues then there will be a public conversation to decide the new permanent ‘official’ home.
  • On how beneficial/detrimental fragmentation is, we have different views and I think we each understand where the other is come from. We have aligned on all practical points and the rest is out of our hands, so suggest we leave it there.
  • On copyright of content posted to Reddit, my understanding is that copyright lies with the author and that Reddit is automatically granted an exception. Reddit is blocked on the computer that I am using so I cannot quickly and directly check their terms just now. I just googled and the first few results aligned with my thinking but they were all from a few years ago. Where did you hear/read that copyright lies with Reddit?
  • Already mentioned elsewhere, but absolutely agree that an offline backup is a great idea.
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