Like #Friendica, /kbin can ban trolls from participating in groups.
Unlike Friendica, you can remove posts local to where the group is hosted.
Unfortunately, the offending comments still appears in user timelines because other Fediverse servers do not delete after comments are removed locally.
Another alternative could be #Calckey which supports groups through "Channels". However these do NOT federate.
Lemmy communities certainly can serve as groups across the fediverse. I don’t know what moderating features the admin of a community gets though. Worth finding out.
So the #Lemmy docs cover the essentials. Seems pretty good. A community has moderators specific to that community, who can also moderate over federation from another instance!
Also, it seems a user can be locked out from a specific thread without being banned from the community.
Creating a new community is open to all lemmy to and following one subscribes you to the group like with friendica (just in case you didn’t know)
@strypey@lapingvino Deeper exploration really starting here now that their beta is released. We are actually starting to do some dev work with the Holochain core team which is giving us a much better understanding of their architecture and what is possible. The next step on the Hylo side is to create a desktop app for Hylo which can act as a Holochain client. Which is great because we need this anyway! But this is still not a short term endeavor.
@atomicpoet Currently, I'm trying to adapt to Lemmy, which I know best. Friendica and *Key are much more mature software than /kbin. I'm still allowing myself to experiment until I release the first version and officially open kbin.social. Currently, I'm monitoring the situation and I'm able to react quickly enough not to bother anyone with my instance. I'm gathering feedback from people, which is great and will definitely speed up the work https://codeberg.org/Kbin/kbin-core/issues. I'll look into integrating with Friendica, as it works a bit differently. I know how important it is.
Currently, kbin is more of an instance for early adopters, and I want to make that clear.
@ernest@fediversenews@lapingvino Let me be clear, I don’t think your software is “broken”. I just had a bit of a situation today with moderating my Friendica group.
@atomicpoet Yes, I know, I don't take it that way at all. I just want to have clear communication about the project. After all, we're all playing for the same team.
YMMV but I didn't enjoy the UX of Hylo. If you're looking for a non-federated group service, Loomio is worth a try. It has some really good decision-making tools.
@strypey Loomio is made for the decision making part basically, Hylo is thinking about integrating some of those elements as well. The vision of Hylo is broader than Loomio though. For "simple" groups Loomio is pretty good, for sure!
@strypey Hylo's main focus is communities that have a strong local element and that makes communities meet among each other. The Hylo system has a public element and a map element that accomplish this throughout. It's about online communities secondary to real life communities. Now I would say that this is also a strong element of Loomio, as it started as a decision making tool and not a community tool, and the community elements came to enable the decision making part, but as such the decision making of the local communities is the core element, whereas with Hylo the core vision is about regaining ownership of society by taking responsibility of our local communities.
@lapingvino
> with Hylo the core vision is about regaining ownership of society by taking responsibility of our local communities
So it's more about nurturing the mycelium connecting various local community groups, rather than providing services that help those groups organize themselves?
@lapingvino
Mycelium is the fungal life form of which mushrooms are the fruit.
> do you think improving one thing is detrimental to the rest
Absolutely not. Apologies if my post gave the impression I was criticising Hylo for having a different focus. Rather I was just restating your post in different words, to check whether I understood the point you were making.
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