rml, (edited )

I would love to start developing for smartphones, creating a proper client totally reimagined for the smartphone is long overdue and a project I could really sink my teeth into. You know the popup keyboard on your phone? You think Steve Jobs invented that? No he didnt, Richard Stallman did, it's called a minibuffer. Emacs was doing all this stuff in the 80s, and way better, even.

But I can't help but hate all the frameworks surrounding mobile development, ie React Native, Swift, Flutter etc, but also from my experience as a user, the apps I've tried that were made with alternative frameworks like , which had to downsample and skew the resolution to fit my phone's screen, so it didn't seem to even feature responsive design; maybe ok for the hospital software they designed it for but not something for creating applications that the people will use out of their own volition.

I'm pessimistic that "there is no alternative" but seeing how nicely is coming along, I'm hoping that I may be wrong. Is there anything promising out there in the space?

ArneBab,
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@rml have you seen the discussions in the emacs lists by Po Lu to merge proper #Android support into #Emacs? (with optimizations for Android UX)

rml,

@ArneBab no I didn't, but I will check it out, thanks!

PaniczGodek,
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@rml Emacs has actually been a huge inspiration for the design of #GRASP (although it is not a "text editor", but a "structure editor"), and while it may yet not be usable, I think that there's already some value in it (and it's actually not that far from being usable), so if you'd like to contribute (or at least give it a try and smash it with criticism), you're very welcome

rml,

@PaniczGodek yeah sure! I'll definitely try to figure out some time to dig into it this month, will give me a good place to start peeking into Kawa as well, thanks for reminding me.

PaniczGodek,
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@rml since the last week, the current iteration supports file loading, and there's a chance that it will support saving within a few days, so things are getting seriously serious :)

(and once I implement the ability to scroll through documents, it's likely going to become Actually Usable)

rml,

@khinsen seeing your boost made me do a quick search for mobile development, and while at first glance it doesn't seem like has a story worked out there, I found a blog about mobile experimentation https://eighty-twenty.org/2021/04/20/on-screen-keyboard-morph

PaniczGodek,
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@rml @khinsen
@tonyg is on Mastodon, so maybe he can share some insight

len,
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@rml well there is @postmarketOS and a few others linux phone distros.

rml,

@len @postmarketOS true, I'm considering getting a pixel to start using Linux mobile. I know it's a wreck, but I can keep my current smartphone handy and just switch the sim card out whenever it breaks.

rml,

@len @postmarketOS not sure whether to go with pmOS or ubports though, I'm hearing much better reviews about the latter.

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