TheJims,

“Please don’t be too nice,” he said to the audience in Long Island, New York.

“When you see these thugs being thrown into the back of a paddy wagon, you just seen them thrown in, rough. I said, ‘Please don’t be too nice,’” he said.

Donald Trump to Police

“When you guys put somebody in the car and you’re protecting their head you know, the way you put their hand over [their head],” Trump continued, mimicking the motion. "Like, ‘Don’t hit their head and they’ve just killed somebody, don’t hit their head.’ I said, ‘You can take the hand away, OK?’

“I have to tell you, you know, the laws are so horrendously stacked against us, because for years and years, they’ve been made to protect the criminal. Totally made to protect the criminal. Not the officers. You do something wrong, you’re in more jeopardy than they are,” he added.

BearOfaTime, (edited )

But hey, those records Joe *never had the authority for× were sitting in his Vette, and that’s OK, nothing to see here folks.

Ffs the hypocrisy and lies.

Rules for thee, not for me.

So much effort to frame Trump, he scares the establishment so much. Pretty damn clear.

Steele Dossier fabricated by Hilary and friends, with clear evidence of such, since 2017. This nonsense over presidential records, which every president has done (and Joe did pre-emptively!).

The establishment (neo-cons, democrats, etc) have turned the US into a banana Republic… It’s just a matter of time now before French Revolution II occurs in the States.

TheJims,

This exonerates trump how?

Nommer,

Rules for thee, not for me.

It’s actually amazing how you people will hear something and immediately steal it so you play the victim card all while screeching about how unfairly you’re being treated while simultaneously being given extra special treatment as to avoid any drama coming from you neanderthals.

glimse,

“Frame Trunp” lol

It’s hard not to feel like most of his fanboys knew nothing about him before he ran for president. He’s a lifelong conman and proud of it. Did no one read his book? I did in the 90s and could tell this dude is the Steven Seagal of business.

Why defend this guy? There are plenty of conservative politicians who aren’t total pieces of shit with awful track records. It’s surreal that you elected a reality TV star to the highest office in the country and now you want to do it again.

wintermute_oregon,

Well except Seagal does know Aikido.

glimse,

Trump technically knows how to “make” money

OnlyTakesLs,

He turned a 1 million dollar loan into a 100 mllion. Thats making money.

BobaFuttbucker,

Yep. In part by:

  • Inheriting a corporation from daddy
  • Lying to the IRS about owned property values to pay less taxes
  • Lying about purchased property values to pay less taxes
  • Lying to banks about repayment
  • Selling secrets to foreign governments
  • Exploitation of workers

Trump knows how to make money, nobody ever said the processes to do so should be acceptable or commendable.

OnlyTakesLs,

Did he ever get convicted? He cheated and won doing it. Thats how its played. Hell, Biden cheated and won the election. Dont hate the player, hate the game.

BobaFuttbucker,

Did he get convicted?

The case is ongoing. He didn’t “win”.

Biden cheated and won the election.

Well one has an ongoing court case, and the other doesn’t. The one that doesn’t has also had his “stolen” victory proven in multiple court cases for years now by everyone who has filed a suit about it.

Sounds like you just plain hate, or you’re a troll, or you are being lied to, or you just genuinely don’t know what’s been going on for the past few years.

Which one is it?

realcaseyrollins,
@realcaseyrollins@noauthority.social avatar

@glimse @BearOfaTime Let's not pretend that the would villainize any conservative republican who won the nomination. If , , , heck anyone other than or would have won, you'd be saying the exact same thing today about that person.

Not to say that is 100% innocent BTW, if should be prosecuted for illegally having classified documents, so should . It goes both ways.

OnlyTakesLs,

Im fine with letting them both burn. Maybe wed get a functional president next.

glimse,

First off, what’s up with all the hashtags? Your comment looks ridiculous and it’s harder to read with links every other word.

Second, MSM would not be villainizing other candidates to this degree because Trump IS a villain. He’s the poster child for scummy businessmen…a caricature, really. I would not be saying the same things because I’ve been well aware of what a selfish asshole Trump is for 20 years…and he’s only gotten worse. Did you even read Art of the Deal? He’s an embarrassment to the country beyond his status as a disgraced politician.

You’re also forgetting that Biden handed those documents over willingly and without delay whereas Trump claimed he didn’t have them and then, when pressured, admitted he did have them but claimed he was allowed to. This isn’t even getting into the likelyhood that he was selling said documents to foreign actors. Now there’s mounting evidence that he tried to cover it all up. That’s your man? That’s who you think should run the country?

BobaFuttbucker,

Dude hashtags things because it gets copied to their mastodon and elevates their comments while failing to provide context for anyone following them on that platform.

Basically it’s an attempt to spread their mastodon posts, but only their side of the conversation so they look smart.

realcaseyrollins,
@realcaseyrollins@noauthority.social avatar

@glimse

> MSM would not be villainizing other candidates to this degree because Trump IS a villain.

You're just parroting talking points here, not proving that I'm wrong.

> He’s the poster child for scummy businessmen…a caricature, really. I would not be saying the same things because I’ve been well aware of what a selfish asshole Trump is for 20 years…and he’s only gotten worse.

Then why was he so well liked while he was a businessman? Nobody hated him until the criticized him.

realcaseyrollins,
@realcaseyrollins@noauthority.social avatar

@glimse

> You’re also forgetting that Biden handed those documents over willingly and without delay whereas Trump claimed he didn’t have them and then, when pressured, admitted he did have them but claimed he was allowed to.

So? The law doesn't care; the criminal activity is having the documents, not refusing to return them or lying about having them.

realcaseyrollins,
@realcaseyrollins@noauthority.social avatar

@glimse

> That’s your man?

No, I've been criticizing #Trump during the entire #GOP presidential nomination process

> That’s who you think should run the country?

Not really, but he's way better than #JoeBiden

glimse,

If you think that Trump is on trial just because he had the documents at all, you clearly are following the case about as much as Trump’s business history…as in… not paying attention at all.

glimse,

I’m not parroting shit. Like I said, I’ve been following Trump’s shady dealings for 20 years. Clearly you haven’t.

He’s well-liked among two groups: the ultrarich because he makes them money with his schemes and the wannabe rich because they are willing to do anything to get ahead. He was never well-liked by other groups.

realcaseyrollins,
@realcaseyrollins@noauthority.social avatar

@glimse

> He’s well-liked among two groups: the ultrarich because he makes them money with his schemes and the wannabe rich because they are willing to do anything to get ahead. He was never well-liked by other groups.

Do you have a source for this?

glimse,

A source for what exactly? Public opinion?

You don’t have to @ me every time.

realcaseyrollins,
@realcaseyrollins@noauthority.social avatar

@glimse Yes. If it was public, you should be able to find, say three instances of that opinion being espoused.

Unless it was like a super secret public opinion that nobody said out loud?

amerika,
@amerika@annihilation.social avatar

@realcaseyrollins @glimse

Like... the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Ziyon?!!

realcaseyrollins,
@realcaseyrollins@noauthority.social avatar

@amerika @glimse Pretty sure that was pretty popular in #Russia, and served as the origins for the modern antisemitic conspiracy theories we see today.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Protocols_of_the_Elders_of_Zion

LookBehindYouNowAndThen,

You’re talking to a white supremicist.

Their site makes it clear.

That’s the reason they’re citing a racist conspiracy theory.

The mods won’t ban him though, because that’s the kind of user they wish to court.

realcaseyrollins,
@realcaseyrollins@noauthority.social avatar

@LookBehindYouNowAndThen I'm not sure if he's a supremacist, more likely a racial separatist/"race realist". Wouldn't be shocked if he's racist, but yeah is quite the deep cut, and his alt-right views are probably the only way he even knows what that is (I only know what that is when I started researching the origins of the v. conflict and it came up as I was skimming )

realcaseyrollins,
@realcaseyrollins@noauthority.social avatar

@LookBehindYouNowAndThen

In any case, his alt right views don't exactly map to this conversation, so I'll allow it for now.

If lemmy.world wants to ban him, they probably can, but he's on annihilation.social, which is a different instance entirely.

LookBehindYouNowAndThen,

The mods have the power to ban anyone.

Notably, they don’t ban the guy who hosts a blog with articles titled things like Being White: The Gradual Epiphany of a True Believer and thinks the Protocols of the Elders of Zion is a true conspiracy.

I’ve been banned for some pretty stupid shit, but this guy is welcome. That should tell you everything you need to know about this community.

realcaseyrollins,
@realcaseyrollins@noauthority.social avatar

@LookBehindYouNowAndThen Report it to the mods. I'm on #Mastodon and I think he's on #Pleroma, so there's nothing I can do.

But I'm a freedom of speech homie so I wouldn't complain about it too much; if the speech offends you, you should be able to block or mute him yourself on your end.

LookBehindYouNowAndThen,

I have reported them.

The mods only care about conservatives facing reality.

They’re not going to ban this chode because they want him for a user.

LookBehindYouNowAndThen,

I don’t make excuses for white supremicists.

Guess you do.

How the fuck is a “racial separatist” not a racist?

Gotta love how this community puts the full depravity of conservatism on display for everyone.

realcaseyrollins,
@realcaseyrollins@noauthority.social avatar

@LookBehindYouNowAndThen

> I don’t make excuses for racists.

I don't either! I do try to understand them though. They walk among us, after all.

> How the fuck is a “racial separatist” not a racist?

They're still racist; the difference is that a white supremacist thinks that white people are better than other people, and racial separatists think that all races are equal, but should be segregated from each other.

cunt,
@cunt@annihilation.social avatar

@realcaseyrollins @LookBehindYouNowAndThen god thought the same thing wen he did tower of babel. mixing races is no good

LookBehindYouNowAndThen,

Nobody cares.

Fuck off, racist POS.

LookBehindYouNowAndThen,

Funny how you’re more charitable to this white supremicist’s views than you are for anyone to your left.

Last time we were having a discussion you misrepresented my views with every reply, but you’ve really dialed in the various flavors of racist, because those nuances are so important to understand.

Conservatives will ally with racists and fascists before they compromise with a lib.

amerika,
@amerika@annihilation.social avatar

@realcaseyrollins @glimse

As far as I can tell, Trump is popular among a range of social classes but also captured the college-educated conservative vote.

newnton, (edited )

My dad grew up in one of trumps dad’s buildings and both of them were scummy businessmen and terrible landlords, Trump sr was convicted of trying to keep black renters out of my dad’s building.

I know a lawyer and a metal fabricator who did work for him and he stiffed them both. The metal fabricator added what he called a “trump fee” for every job after that because trump would never pay the last bill, so he just increased the price of the previous ones.

The “mainstream media” may be bad at a lot of things, but they’re not pulling things out of the air here. Trump is a bad person, and there’s a mountain of evidence to support that if you want to look

BobaFuttbucker,

Joe never hid documents in his bedroom from feds lol

Kaboom,

Yeah, just in his garage. Totally different!

BobaFuttbucker,

Yeah if you want to get into the detail the circumstances were completely different, but I’m not interested in defending Joe’s actions. I’m simply stating they weren’t as shitty as Trump’s.

At the very least Biden owned up to what he had, complied with the investigations and didn’t whine about it publicly when they were discovered. Also in the case of most of them, they notified the government they were discovered. With Trump, the FBI had to raid his ass to get them back. That’s why Trump’s actions are being treated as a crime. 🤣

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