Vivaldi,
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🍕🚀 Your browser experience, just like your favorite pizza, should be fully customizable to suit your tastes. And at Vivaldi, your feedback is the secret sauce that makes it all possible! 🌟

But like any great recipe, sometimes the ingredients don't quite blend as intended.

After the release of Vivaldi 6.6 on Android, our efforts to unify menus and toolbars led to unintended consequences.

📝 Get a rundown of what happened after the release of Vivaldi 6.6 on Android, where we turned your feedback into meaningful action. 👇🏻

https://vivaldi.com/blog/in-your-hands-from-feedback-to-features/

far4, (edited )
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@Vivaldi

And by the way! When will I be able to disable this extremely inconvenient for many (on the forum wrote) update with a swipe? And at the same time, so I don't have to write twice, when will I be able to disable the side gestures "forward" and "back"? They overlap with system-wide android gestures and it turns out to be uncomfortable.

I could talk about expirience for hours. But... it wouldn't be a fun conversation.

For example, viewing, copying and exporting passwords in the browser is not locally protected in any way. All it takes is for a smartphone with an open lockscreen to fall into the hands of a clever crook for 10 minutes, and he will steal everything. And I won't even know it. Is it difficult to encrypt access to any password with a master password? Much less a full export of passwords in unencrypted form. I'm afraid to use such a password manager! It looks like a wallet with lots of holes in it.

Vivaldi,
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@far4
Can you point us to the Forum topic where disabling gestures is discussed? We found some that could be the ones you're thinking of, but we want to be sure.

Regarding passwords. Viewing and copying passwords that you've saved in Vivaldi is not possible, without first entering your devices lock screen PIN, password or pattern.

far4,
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@Vivaldi
About gestures and the desirability of turning them off, for example:
https://forum.vivaldi.net/post/581541
https://forum.vivaldi.net/post/557473
https://forum.vivaldi.net/post/586451

About passwords: I looked at the latest stable version, I think you decided to make the -reauth-password-filling flag non-disable in principle. :) I have not been able to disable it, but in the previous version it was possible. Yes, that's a workaround too. Except that fingerprint protection and other system-wide biometrics are weaker than an extra layer of encryption and asking for a separate password.

Vivaldi,
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@far4
Could you make a feature request in the English speaking Mobile Feature Requests category for disabling gestures as well, so everyone could find and upvote it. Thanks!

far4, (edited )
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@Vivaldi But isn't it obvious, but with even (!) a reload button in the omnibox, a swipe to refresh the page should be optional? What is there to discuss here, this is a must have problem. It has been indirectly touched upon many times on the forum, including in English.

As for the side gestures that duplicate the "back" and "forward" buttons, judge for yourself from this screenshot, can you use them? Add to that the enabled system-wide gestures. Triple overlay! Triple - and not only on this forum. So, they should be made optional too, they are only useful for people who use underscreen- or osd-buttons, not gestures for firmware. I mean, it just needs to be done, otherwise the discussion will drag on for another 5 years.

far4,
@far4@vivaldi.net avatar

@Vivaldi I apologize for the possible harshness, but please pay attention to this thread. The request is about to be 4 years old. The request is as simple as 2 cents. Kiwi, Cromite, Firefox - have import/export of bookmarks, and android/Vivaldi - do not. I don't know why the most simple and everyday things can't be done in a week or a month. But I'm afraid it's the same story with gestures.

https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/46946/import-and-export-bookmarks?page=1

far4,
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@Vivaldi
I'll quote one post of mine in translation:

I'm on a budget, too. And agree, that's not a substantive answer to the question.
There are people who use sub-screen or on-screen buttons, right? In this case, browser gestures are easier to use, they don't overlap with system-wide gestures. And there are long-standardized functions of controlling the smartphone with gestures, controlling the whole system. Firmware gestures allow to save screen space - they remove the system-wide panel with buttons. But they conflict with Vivaldi gestures.

And here's the interesting thing: if we use gestures on Vivaldi, then maybe it makes sense to optionally build in a complete disabling of the browser control panel? It also takes up space and duplicates gestures with buttons, though it is auto-open. And vice versa, if we use the control panel, why are gestures enabled at the same time? Both optionality, i.e. flexibility of settings would be appropriate. Including for compatibility with smartphone/tablet settings.

RyuKurisu,
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@Vivaldi where can I supply feedback? Because I find it difficult to believe that I can't add different search engines on Vivaldi Android (probably iOS as well, but I can't confirm). ¯⁠\⁠⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠⁠/⁠¯

Vivaldi,
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@RyuKurisu
For now, you can add additional Search Engines on mobile by adding them on the desktop version of Vivaldi and using Sync to bring them over to mobile.

RyuKurisu,
@RyuKurisu@fosstodon.org avatar

@Vivaldi okay thanks for the work around, but is this something that'll be added in the roadmap for future development? 😘

Vivaldi,
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@RyuKurisu
Possible, but currently there's no ETA for it.

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