Therealgoodjanet,

A Zionist New Orleans City Council staff member’s home was vandalized Thursday night with blood red paint

FTFY

I see we still have trouble keeping Zionist and Jewish apart. While I don’t deny anti-semitism is a thing, there was a fucking Israeli flag.

If there’s one reason why this person got “blood” smeared all over their house, it’s because they clearly support genocide. That has nothing to do with their religion. Unlike what Israel wants you to believe.

Fuck everyone who conflate the two.

trainwreck,

Us jews don’t really have a universal symbol of our faith. Israeli flag doesn’t automatically equal zionism in my mind. It’s a bit different now, but especially when I was growing up, all my peers and I viewed said flag the same way we view the cross. At the very least, it shouldn’t be an invitation for property damage.

The topic is highly nuanced. I know this is lost on almost everyone. I fear I’ll be mistaken as a zionist for expressing any viewpoint that isn’t aggressively one-sided, so let me state explicitly: I am strongly against Israel.

The vandalism has to fucking stop though. I paint over multiple swastikas and maliciously-drawn stars of David on a daily fucking basis. I have probably painted over 100 such instances since this shit popped off. It feels a lot like a threat at this point. I covered 2 swastikas and 4 stars of david YESTERDAY. I don’t feel safe in my city cause of this shit.

raoulraoul,
@raoulraoul@midwest.social avatar

I just wanted to say thank you for this. It shouldn’t ever be an invitation for violence, the topic is far from being black-or-white and I’m sorry you feel threatened daily by, for lack of a better term, the ignorant.


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NoneOfUrBusiness,

all my peers and I viewed said flag the same way we view the cross

That's seems like a you problem for considering a symbol of genocide (which the Israeli flag has always been) to be a symbol of your faith. The Israeli flag is a socially acceptable Swastika.

trainwreck,

Can you blame us for latching onto a symbol in our youth, before we are old enough to form any political opinions or even understand the situation? There is a reason I don’t fly an israeli flag, that’s because I know what it means to you.

NoneOfUrBusiness,

There is a reason I don’t fly an israeli flag, that’s because I know what it means to you.

Then I'm not sure what there is to talk about. I think we agree on the important point here.

Therealgoodjanet,

What you’re describing is clear anti-semitism and it’s horrible you have to experience that. I’m sorry you see this regularly and don’t feel safe.

What’s different in this case though is flying a flag of a country actively committing a genocide and being surprised people have an issue with that (not saying here I agree or disagree with the action, what I think is not relevant). The issue is not them being Jewish. The issue is them supporting a rogue country.

What is the point of flying a flag if not to show support? It’s like tattooing a swastika on your face and being surprised people mistake you for a nazi.

applepie,

Israeli flag doesn’t automatically equal zionism in my mind.

It does not matter what you and your friends think. Israeli flag is symbol of genocide now. Israeli government stained Jewish people with this shit so y'all better find a way to distance yourself because tolerance for Israel has been exhausted and going forward Israel will be associated with war crimes. US government enabling it despite current news covering it their criminal behavior in real time will also have to cope with this attitude changes. No money to send shit to Ukraine but can always make a back room deal for Israel... Sure buddy.

I hope Gaza was worth it losing all that good will over.

Never again but this one more time for the gods chosen people because holocaust...🤡🤡🤡

trainwreck,

My guy, us jews never had good will with anyone. We have always been used as tokens for politican leverage. Our tendency to form insular communities and be secretive is a survival strategy selected for by the extensive history of governments using us as a lever and then disposing of us once we are no longer useful.

Also, you write as if you think I support Israel, as if I have some personal stake in the success of this genocide when I explicitly stated I’m against it. To be quite honest, it comes off as anti-semitic when you clearly have a deep well of anger and you’re just waiting to unload on the first jew you see. I’ll say it again, I am strictly anti-Israel. Do you think you’re saying anything to me that I haven’t already heard a thousand times? Do you think that I don’t already agree with you? Guess what… I do agree with you, but I don’t agree with your strategy of lobbing anger at anyone who doesn’t have their mind shut to the nuance of the situation. I wish you would take a step back and think about what’s driving you to act this way. I don’t think that you think you’re spreading awareness here, changing people’s minds, or anything of that sort. Dopamine-seeking political vitriol is harmful for society. The people who really call the shots when it comes to this shit have weaponized social disconnectivity against us and when you let loose like this, you are playing directly into their hand.

applepie,

If you see and know all of this then why would you fly a flag of foreign country that is committing war crimes.

There is a disconnect here?

trainwreck,

Do you think I fly an Israeli flag? Did I ever indicate this?

applepie,

I assumed you were the same guy I replied too.

Your reply makes no sense then.

trainwreck,

Take a look at the reply chain. It’s just been us.

applepie,

Then my point still stands. You can view israeli flag however you want. It got a new meaning now in the mainstream and it is pretty fucking disgusting.

Yet people think it is acceptable to fly it as some sort of pride shit. Jfc. Get a fucking clue, adjust to current reality.

trainwreck,

Sure, but you’ve missed my point entirely. It shouldn’t be an invitation for crime. Nor should any other flag besides those regarding situations devoid of nuance, such as the nazi flag or perhaps the confederate flag.

applepie,

I discussed usage of Israeli flag. You came at me about tone of my post.

trainwreck,

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ElcaineVolta,
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maybe they should have just torn the house down, built a new one on the land, and insisted it's theirs forever?

ivanafterall,
ivanafterall avatar

From an Old Testament perspective, this could be seen as the ultimate kindness.

downpunxx,

what does that mean?

ivanafterall,
ivanafterall avatar

During one of the plagues in Egypt, only the families with blood on their doorposts were spared by God.

downpunxx,

yes, the angel of death passed over their homes. but how is an antisemitic attack, splashing blood or blood like substance over a jewish home, which was meant to terrorize them, coan be seen as the ultimate kindness? to invert the passover story when a jewish family is attacked by cowards is perverse and disgusting.

seahorse,
@seahorse@midwest.social avatar

Similar happened to an acquaintance of mine’s son who also lives in NOLA. He flew an Israeli flag and someone spray painted Free Palestine on his garage.

I got out the world’s smallest violin for that.

SquishyPandaDev,
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Maybe the staff member should not openly support a genocidal nation by flying their flag. 🤷

The_Che_Banana,

Could you point out the country that hasn’t committed genocide?

It’s governments that commit atrocities in the name of the people, it isn’t the people, and it certainly isn’t some dude on a city council in another country.

NoneOfUrBusiness,

Even if we take your point for granted (which we shouldn't) this man is raising the flag of a country currently committing genocide. That'd be like raising the Nazi flag during the 40s (or any time period really); it's just socially acceptable for some godforsaken reason.

The_Che_Banana,

Ok, so when was the last time someone was stabbed over a Nazi flag?

What is happening in Gaza is a travesty, and indeed the government of Israel is (over) reacting to an unprecedented terrorist attack by attacking civilians.

But neither the man, nor his flag are in Israel or Palestine, the dude is in the US where extremists of every type are just itching to use any excuse to commit violent acts, especially against the latest group in the spotlight (Jews are the current fad, outshines Muslims for the moment).

Instead of condoning more violence, put your efforts into ending the violence.

NoneOfUrBusiness,

Ok, so when was the last time someone was stabbed over a Nazi flag?

I never defended stabbing people over raising the Israeli flag. The person in the article is mad someone put some paint on a small part of their home. Their safety wasn't threatened in any way. Also making it clear Zionism is not okay does contribute to ending the violence. Israel's genocide (and more general ethnic cleansing project) lives and dies by Western public goodwill.

The_Che_Banana,

Good points.

(I got my news articles mixed up, there was a elderly jewish man stabbed also on my info dump this morning- so pls disregard that).

SatansMaggotyCumFart,

Throwing paint on it and their house was crossing a line though.

I wonder if anyone would care if it was ripped down and burnt?

NoneOfUrBusiness,

I wonder if anyone would care if it was ripped down and burnt?

I'd be saying good riddance, personally.

Cagi,

Mass murdering civilians is crossing the line. Vandalism is the beginning of what kind of destruction is justified against those that support and empower a genocide. Having their insurance pay a painter for a morning of work is not that bad.

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