CoffeeJunkie,
Beetschnapps,

George W Bush fucked up Afghanistan.

Biden followed trumps shitty Doha agreement.

The options were delay, renegotiate with zero leverage after trump, or stay in Afghanistan. Biden delayed and the effects of trumps damage to the state dept reared its head.

Cowbee,

Definitely will be. He’s tanking his approval ratings and handing a win to Trump on a silver platter just to kill that many more children, and denouncing any who disagree with him.

donescobar,

Now they are blaming TikTok for bad optics. Yes, I guess TikTok is making genocide look bad…

Arelin,

It very much is. The campus protests and the crackdown on them are common in both, and Hamas and the Palestinian resistance also mirror the Viet Cong in both their tactics — using tunnels, taking hostages, guerilla warfare — and their goal of driving out the occupation and reuniting their country.

Amoxtli,

I would not go that far and call it a potential Vietnam. A more appropriate comparison is Black Hawk Down: The Sequel.

njm1314,

Black Hawk Down didn’t cost anyone their presidency though. That on the other hand is why Sanders is making the comparison.

Amoxtli,

I see your point.

Anticorp,

Biden is the President of the United States of America, not of Israel. The United States is not at war with Palestine.

triptrapper,

The massacre in Gaza could stop tomorrow if the US stopped providing billions of dollars, and weapons, to the Israeli government.

nexguy,
@nexguy@lemmy.world avatar

Let’s be honest Israel will 100% continue into Gaza with or without foreign aid.

kurwa,

Israel is just another arm of the United States.

njm1314,

That seems like a logic to absolve the United States of its crimes across history in the world. After all we didn’t Slaughter hundreds of people and overthrow democratically elected governments. That was just all the fascist we trained and armed and financed and acted largely at our behest. See?

athos77,

We could stop sending arms to Israel, that would be a start.

Anticorp,

The problem with that is that Israel will be annihilated by the surrounding Muslim countries that are bothered by its existence. What should happen is that United Nations countries should embargo Israel, just as they’ve done to Russia.

MossyFeathers,

I know it won’t happen, but it’d be wild if the Republican party looked at Biden, said, “we could win this if we didn’t field trump” and nominated someone else as their candidate; while the Democrats said, “people aren’t going to vote for trump, but they may not vote for Biden either, which could cost us the election” and fielded someone other than Biden. The result being that neither Biden nor Trump end up on the ballot.

Again, it’s highly unlikely to occur (though we are living in “Strange Times”), and we’re almost guaranteed to see Biden vs Trump, but it’d be interesting to see how that’d shake things up.

PowerCrazy,

It’d be wild if people voted against genocide. But alas, that too won’t happen.

match,
@match@pawb.social avatar

the primaries are over, that would’ve happened last year if it were to happen

MossyFeathers,

Yeah, but, and I may be mistaken, but primaries are up to the parties. That means they don’t have to adhere to the primary outcomes or even hold primaries to begin with. Biden could get 100% of the primary vote, but if they think he’s going to lose to trump, then they could still swap him out with someone else.

match,
@match@pawb.social avatar

in many states it’s illegal for a party to violate or inappropriately change their own primary rules (e.g. they must follow strict procedures and can be accountable if they don’t follow them), which, is usually a good thing right?

MossyFeathers,

Yeah. Although in this case it might be better if they could.

11111one11111, (edited )

There’s gotta be loopholes lol it’s fuckin American politics, there’s always a fuckin loophole and it’s usually gaping.

TheOctonaut,

Or the two senile old men could die.

Naturally I’m sure.

I mean you keep saying the guns are to prevent you from being in a situation where your government isn’t representative of what the people want.

But they’re old. Right?

match,
@match@pawb.social avatar

Kinda wish America wasn’t a scary surveillance state but yes, a candidate(s) could theoretically die before then.

MossyFeathers,

Who said anything about guns? Lol

TheOctonaut,

Not you. Plural you. Wait, I speak a little American. Y’all.

deadbeef79000,

The correct usage in this case would be all y’all.

Chuymatt,

Y’all’ns?

HuntressHimbo,

When they first had the nominations more or less locked in I posited to my partner that being as confrontational as they both are they really might give each other heart attacks on the debate stage by getting into a fight

BrikoX,
@BrikoX@lemmy.zip avatar

There were polls done at some point, “generic” Democrat wins by 13 points against Trump and “generic” Republican wins by 11 points against Biden.

njm1314,

Generic candidates always win. They have no flaws. No hang ups. No annoying habits. No awkward gafs. No history, no voting records. You can’t even call him generic candidates. Because who people are voting for in that poll are more accurately they’re idealized candidate. And by that I mean each individual person’s idealized candidate. So of course they always win. When they put a name down the numbers change.

wildbus8979,

December 2015 polls had Bernie as the only candidate winning against Trump. But hey, the neolib establishment knows best!

TheDoctor,
@TheDoctor@hexbear.net avatar

We may get 2 republican presidents in a row after this election because Biden won’t get his head out of his ass

dessalines,
wagesj45,
@wagesj45@kbin.run avatar

If we get Trump in again, I wouldn't put money down betting on us getting another Democratic president ever. Which is why I'm really hoping he listens to the criticism and gets his shit together. And if he gets his shit together, I'm hoping people are willing to allow themselves to be won over. If we just stay mad cause he didn't do something sooner/enough, we are also fucked.

There are too many potential paths in which we are fucked for my comfort.

TheAnonymouseJoker,
@TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml avatar

Biden already said he’s a Zionist. Shut up and let him run the train over USA. He thinks he’s retaining favour with Israel and Zionist media lobby, but he is running the whole bulldozer on USA, which is a good thing for rest of the world.

RedWizard,
@RedWizard@hexbear.net avatar

“May be”? That ship has sailed.

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