skozzii,

100% Musk. He owes the shareholders billions in damages.

circuitfarmer,
@circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org avatar
  • Now-famous poor quality control
  • Questionable design decisions like shifting with a screen
  • Company smells Musky

Yeah, I’m sure it’s the hybrids.

MushuChupacabra,
@MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world avatar

Elon Musk still in charge, or involved in any significant way with Tesla, automatically rules out purchasing a Tesla.

mr_rusty_shackleford,

And the stock went up 13%….

inclementimmigrant,

I mean that an combined that the CEO is a openly right wing douche and they aren’t making affordable cars for middle class and the recent cyber truck fiasco and the fact that they can’t get the full expanded credits and the other car companies have made significant strides to catch up and exceed Tesla’s autonomous driving. But yeah, it’s just hybrids.

HuddaBudda,
HuddaBudda avatar

Thank you! Somebody said it!

Shortstack,

Well, there’s folks like me that don’t want EVs but want hybrids. I’m sure that plays into it in some small way. Definitely dwarfed by all your reasons though

nxdefiant,

Fuck I hope musk gets canned over this. I know the chances are near nill, but hey, a human can hope.

skozzii,

Musk is going to be a case study in the future of having it all, and just goes off the rails, will be interesting to see the final chapters of this chaos.

Guntrigger,

Haha yes. I’m sure it’s the hybrids (which have always been competition) and not the unhinged CEO, poor quality forcing recalls, poor progress at self driving to a point it is being overtaken by other manufacturers and a general drop in brand confidence.

BrikoX,
@BrikoX@lemmy.zip avatar

It’s both. Hybrid popularity skyrocketed during the pandemic.

nxdefiant,

That’s mostly because used cars cost as much as new cars, and new cars were hard to come by thanks to chip shortages, so if you wanted a car you got what you could get. Everything sold during the pandemic.

BolexForSoup,
BolexForSoup avatar

It hasn’t slowed down in the slightest

BrikoX,
@BrikoX@lemmy.zip avatar

It was boosted by pandemic, but the trend is still going strongly, so that argument doesn’t hold any water.

nxdefiant,

Well you said “during the pandemic”. That was the context for my response, I never said anything about after.

BrikoX, (edited )
@BrikoX@lemmy.zip avatar

Your argument was that people bought anything that moved and that’s why hybrids got popular, which is plainly not supported by the data.

All the top tier manufacturers that went all in into EVs are reversing their stance and going full force in hybrid production. That started during the pandemic and continues to this day.

US only sales datahttps://lemmy.zip/pictrs/image/b912274f-4eff-4735-af1a-8b8aa326f15f.webp

nxdefiant,

No, not at all. I said everything sold during the pandemic, and because that was evident to manufacturers, they started putting their limited chip supply towards things with higher profit margins, like luxury cars, PHEV’s and EV’s.

Guntrigger,

I’m really confused by the data you’re providing as evidence, as it seems to say the opposite of what you are trying to prove.

Year on year increase for both EV and PHEV with both a bigger market share and bigger slice for EV is what I see there. PHEV has been around 20% of the total (with some fluctuations) since the pre-pandemic boom.

ramenshaman,

EV sales have been steadily increasing

canarymedia.com/…/chart-ev-sales-on-pace-to-break…

reddig33,

More likely under pressure from a CEO who doesn’t know what they are doing anymore.

TropicalDingdong,

He’s bored with it and wants to play with his bird.

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