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Higher vehicle hoods significantly increase pedestrian deaths, study finds

Single-vehicle, single-pedestrian crash data for 2016-2021 finds hoods a problem.

https://arstechnica.com/cars/2024/01/higher-vehicle-hoods-significantly-increase-pedestrian-deaths-study-finds/?utm_brand=arstechnica&utm_social-type=owned&utm_source=mastodon&utm_medium=social

proseandpassion,
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It's crazy how vehicles that severely limit the view on the road directly ahead are allowed on the road.

I would expect European regulations exist that prohibit this. If not, that should be fixed ASAP.

Galley,
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@arstechnica I think the hood height on my vehicle is just fine. 😄

Clutha,
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Disgraceful!
A safety campaign decades ago led to vehicle fronts being no higher than the lower edge of the grill on that monstrosity .
What have those in charge of vehicle safety regulations been doing since?

wonka,
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@Clutha They exempted "light duty" trucks from certain safety regulations applying to passenger vehicles.

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@wonka @arstechnica
So, pedestrians never get hit by light trucks ? 🤔

wonka,
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@Clutha I don't know anything about their reasoning. I only know that's the route via which the Cybertruck could be road legal in the USA (while being not even close to road legal in Europe).

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wonka,
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To be absolutely clear: No vehicle where the driver cannot see a one year old child standing in front of the bumper should be road legal anywhere. Trucks should be "cab-over". Passenger vehicles should have hoods sloped down far enough.

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takeitev,
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@arstechnica @lisamelton that GMC "truck" looks like a pig, I'm sorry - but once seen cannot be unseen

twoframesperminute,

@arstechnica Europe: here, we have data on how to prevent traffic deaths!
Americans: hold my beer, I need to add another 10 inches to my hood.

Richard_hoperestored,

@arstechnica Confusing article. Seems like it started with the premise that trucks and suvs are bad then worked backwards to confirm it.

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We've known about the correlation between hood height and pedestrian deaths since the 1980s. This study reaffirms prior knowledge.

My last pickup was an '86 4x4 F150. I could still lean in to check the oil and such easily enough while standing on the ground. I could reach over the bed rails to grab things out of the back.

My brother in law's '22 GMC 2500 4x4's hood is basically at my chin, about the same as the D700 Dodge stake truck I drove back in the '80s. Forget reaching over the side. It's the least useful pickup I've been around for anything other than towing. That's about the only thing he uses it for, towing a large horse trailer and a gooseneck flatbed for his hobby farm.

Richard_hoperestored,

@Sir_Osis_of_Liver @arstechnica Exactly. Folks buy vehicles that suit their purposes for the most part and we shouldn't judge what someone drives without knowing why.

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@Richard_hoperestored @Sir_Osis_of_Liver @arstechnica — unless it is a business lease and they commute 45 minutes from their country home in a Ford F-350 superduty with a crew cab by himself. You can always tell what kind of boss you have when you can compare what he drives to what the employees drive (or not). Amazing to me that the boss’s entire business relies on this one dude riding a scooter to work on SNOW days to make sure production happens.

Richard_hoperestored,

@jeffowski @Sir_Osis_of_Liver @arstechnica Yeah, that's a whole other issue. The psychology behind which vehicles people buy. That gets beyond practical and into something else.

jeffowski,
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@Richard_hoperestored @Sir_Osis_of_Liver @arstechnica -- I call it the 5% fallacy. When you buy a car, you use it 95% of the time to commute to work, get groceries, take the kids to school, etc.
But people buy trucks and SUVs based on the 5% fallacy of basing 100% of your purchase on the 5% of cases.
You could buy a commuter car and save a lot of money and save a lot of carbon utilizing a car that will meet 95% off all your needs better.

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