mike,
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Very soon in Flipboard I will be able to follow @Gargron who is on Mastodon and @mosseri who is on Threads and @dansup who is on PixelFed. And I will be able to see, like and reply to any of their posts. And they will be able to see my replies and follow me from whatever app they're using. And anyone else who is following one of the three of us will be able to see our activity from whatever app they're using in the Fediverse. This is how things should be.

markhughes,
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@mike
Something as contentious as seeing Threads content should be by consent, which means opt-in not opt-out blocking which is hard to find in the web UI. I tried more than once in the past and gave up, so this move by de facto forces users to see content controlled by the corporation that was for many the reason they built or came to the fediverse to get away from.

Federating with #Meta / #Threads is a travesty and will severely damage what the #fedi stands for.
@mosseri @dansup @Gargron

ninboy,

@markhughes @mike @mosseri @dansup @Gargron if an administrator blocks the instance, why is it good for them to be taking content editorial decisions for you? If they block it you won’t be able to unblock. You have to leave your instance.

If the admin does not block, the power rests in you.

What you are advocating for is removing user choice and forcing all people on a server cut ties they may not want to cut.

markhughes,
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@ninboy no I'm not.
@mike @mosseri @dansup @Gargron

mike,
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@markhughes @mike @mosseri @dansup @Gargron I completely understand your concerns. Making the opt in/opt out and blocking/muting choices visible in the UI and clear to people as to how they work will be very important so they can make the choices they want in the Fediverse. I think the first principle driving the #Fediverse is giving users choice and agency regarding who they want to connect with and how.

markhughes,
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@mike
It's about more than connection. It's about content too, and most of all culture. There are many reasons to exclude #Threads, #Medium and their like.

Most of those reasons are why the fediverse exists in the first place and why many people came here.

That so many, especially admins and indeed Eugen ignore them is a mystery to me. They make #Meta's job so much easier than it needs to be.

Regardless, I knew #fedi was inadequate and so push for #p2p.
@mike @mosseri @dansup @Gargron

deborahh,

@mike @mosseri @dansup @Gargron and when I'm sure those monolithic servers are moderating hate and misinformation, I"ll unblock them and you'll even be able to see me.

katrinakatrinka,

@mike @mosseri @dansup @Gargron
Since you're popping up in my feed, it reminded me that I've been enjoying your podcast, and the episode I listened to today was a great exploration of this topic.

https://dot-social.simplecast.com/episodes/john-battelle

mike,
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@katrinakatrinka Thank you so much Katrina!

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