ChrisMayLA6,
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While Nesrine Malik makes a lot of good points here about Britain's diminishing influence in the world (due to the problems we confront at home) by citing nominal GDP figures to say we're the 6th largest economy in the world, she misses the key indicator of our real economic status.

By not using GDP per capita - where we are ranked in the mid-to-low 20s - she misses a much more convincing & consistent economic context for her argument!


https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/apr/22/austerity-brexit-britain-foreign-office-politicians?CMP=fb_cif

djr,
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@ChrisMayLA6

I would go for an alternative measure - GDP adjusted for purchasing power - which would relegate Britain down at least a couple of places. It is a measure which found to work very well in understanding the last century.

ChrisMayLA6,
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@djr

purchasing power and per capita? If so I'd agree, that would be even better - not sure there are widely available rankings on that, but if they are I'd support their (widespread0 use for reality-check(s)

djr,
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@ChrisMayLA6

There is the International Comparison programme providing benchmark estimates every few years - and I suspect that the 'PennWorld Tables' which fill in gaps by extrapolation and interpolation may still be being produced - though probably no longer at the University of Pennsylvania. I will check though and hope to get to you later today.

ChrisMayLA6,
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@djr

Thanks, if available very happy to boost the link... until we understand that were very much not the sixth largest economy in the world, we'll remain mystified by our plight in the world

djr,
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@ChrisMayLA6
I have found on google edition ten - PWT 10.01 Penn World Table - produced by the University of Groningen last year and have downloaded the excel version. Suspect that the data can be found there with time and patience. Hope this helpful.

djr,
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@ChrisMayLA6

Will have a look at the most recent data - 2019 - on it and see what the ten largest economies were in terms of GDP purchasing power. Hopefully UK still among them though unlikely to be as high as number six. Will return to this later today.

djr,
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@ChrisMayLA6

I have had a quick look at the 2019 data. Allowing for uncertainties - and the fact that the expenditure and output measures of GDP differ slightly - I can say that the and were very close to each other - and either could be the largest economy, was a clear third and a clear fourth. and were very close together at fifth or sixth as were the next four - , , and the . So the was between seventh and tenth!

djr,
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@ChrisMayLA6

So the answer is somewhere between seventh and tenth largest economy at least in 2019 although I suspect the may have lost ground since then. Grateful to have been stimulated to do that particular piece of research. Always in need of stimulation at my advanced age

djr,
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@ChrisMayLA6
The rest of the 'top twenty' include Australia, Canada, Italy, Korea (ROK), Mexico, Poland, Saudi Arabia, Thailand and Turkey.

djr,
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@ChrisMayLA6

I have also looked tentatively at real GDP per capita in 2019 implied by the same source. Just two of the six economies definitely larger than the in 2019 had higher GDP per capita - and the . A further three in the 'top twenty' are in that category - , and . Among smaller economies I have found , , , , , , , , and .

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