uzi,

He’s a bigot. He assumes anybody that dies not look pure white most likely has a criminal record.

wintermute_oregon,

My favorite is his quote about Obama. That always made my dad cringe hard.

BobaFuttbucker,

How do you feel about Trump mocking a physically disabled person?

wintermute_oregon,
BobaFuttbucker,

Yes it did happen, here’s the clip: m.youtube.com/watch?v=uNXgjnBpxGI

Maybe you should think about getting another source of information, this latest one seems to be telling you to ignore reality.

wintermute_oregon,

I’ve seen the clip. He wasn’t making fun of that person.

It’s something Trump has done for years.

BobaFuttbucker,

No, he doesn’t do what he did in that clip except in that clip.

You just don’t want to admit to me or yourself that you are defending someone who would do that. It’s so obvious to the rest of us.

wintermute_oregon,

Since he’s done it for years, it’s delusional to think he was singling out that man. Personally I don’t care if he made fun of the man. I don’t have a dog in that fight. I’ve never said Trump is a good person. He’s just better than Biden for our country

BobaFuttbucker,

I don’t doubt he’s been mocking people with disabilities for years. That doesn’t make this particular instance ok, or any of them for that matter.

You can’t care about his conduct because it would be admitting he’s somehow worse than the alternative.

wintermute_oregon,

Biden hung out with kkk members and said he didn’t want his kids going to a racial jungle. Yet you’ll keep pining over Biden.

BobaFuttbucker,

Now you’re whatabouting because you can’t deny any longer what Trump did and have to make Biden seem worse.

I really wish we could have actual discussions here, man. But that requires give and take on BOTH parts.

wintermute_oregon,

I did deny it. I cited an article denying it. You refuse to accept the truth and expect me to accept your delusion. I won’t. It’s that simple.

BobaFuttbucker,
wintermute_oregon,

False. Already cited otherwise.

You claim to want a discussion but really what you want is agreement with your false ideas.

BobaFuttbucker,

“The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”

wintermute_oregon,

You ssnt to believe Trump made fun of a disabled person. It’s important for you to believe that. It bothers you that I look at the facts and don’t see the delusion. I just see Trump doing exactly what he’s done for years.

I find it more entertaining you see something that isn’t there and keep insisting it’s true.

BobaFuttbucker, (edited )

He clearly mocked a disabled person. I’m not arguing that with you anymore. It’s in the video, clear as any other video. It’s your choice to pretend not to see it.

You’re just having to justify to yourself that isn’t what happened so you can’t be wrong.

Its reasons like this that explain perfectly why you get more dissent than agreement in this community. At least in past exchanges I’ve owned up when I was wrong and apologized. You so far have been incapable of that.

wintermute_oregon,

I would own up if I was wrong but as my citation shows, I am correct.

BobaFuttbucker, (edited )

An opinion article on a conservative site is not making any points in your favor and the fact that you think that it’s enough to debunk a video of the thing actually happening is honestly really sad.

With as much as you like to trash talk liberals I would expect better debate skills from you. But I guess this is just how conservatives form arguments.

If I were to provide an opinion article from a liberal publication saying the exact opposite, would that then fully cancel out your point and put us back at square one? Or would you just continue denying the world around you?

uzi,

About Obama being articulate, he’s not, and bright, he’s not, and Biden saying that’s a fairytale?

wintermute_oregon,

Obama was articulate. The Man was a great speaker. He was reasonably intelligent. Though has a professor of constitutional law, he got a lot of his agenda overturned. Overall I disappointed with Obama but I did vote for him twice. I expected something Amazing and he left the country worse than when he started.

uzi,

Obama wants America to be Cuba or Venezuela. His mentor, Frank Marshall Davis, had inspirations from the Russian communist revolution and had an FBI on him so f American had a communist uprising, Frank was to be picked up immediately.

Obama is in full support of obolishing the American republic and establishing a hierchy system where the White House decides all of the laws.

wintermute_oregon,

I mean he did try to make a bunch and got shutdown. He didn’t seem to understand the constitution well.

What interesting is he didn’t raise the taxes like the democrats want. I find it funny they blame republicans. Ut their leaders don’t push for it either.

uzi,

If you voted twice for him, do you feel as though you got hustled, that you got played?

wintermute_oregon,

He did ok. I think the alternatives were worse.

We need to get past the republicans who worship deporting American jobs. It’s why I couldn’t vote for Romney. He made his fortune destroying jobs and not creating them.

uzi,

Oh don’t me wrong. McCain was a con, he was vile and disgusting. Mit was a con, he is evil and will exploit every single person who believes him.

I do also say Obama was a con, and a sociopath who hustled the media and manipulated the people.

wintermute_oregon,

Wouldn’t it be nice if we had good options? I’m not a huge fan of trump but Biden is much worse.

I’ll take Trump over Biden any day.

uzi,

For this election, you have a choice between a hard Democrat, a Democrat light, and a sensible Democrat. There is no republican candidate, as in someone for the republic.

wintermute_oregon,

Exactly. The left like to think Trump is a hardcore republican. He’s more like a light democrat. He was a democrat most of his life. Hell he was good friends with Clinton’s.

Death_Equity,

He says he did, evidence says he didn’t.

Option A: He didn’t and is telling a lie or he has a false memory.

Option B: He did and his arrest didn’t result in a charge or conviction, or it was swept under the rug thanks to his father’s money, power, and influence.

Knowing how rich families operate and knowing Biden was planning on a political career early on in his life, Option B seems the most likely to me.

wintermute_oregon,

It’s option A. There is no record of it and Joe was well known racist back then. He hung out with the kkk and used terms like racial jungle.

I think people forget how common and acceptable racism was back then.

BearOfaTime,

People downvote you for pointing out we have him on record repeatedly being racist.

wintermute_oregon,

I consider downvotes to be a sign of accuracy and thought here.

HunterOfGunners,

Seriously, get your head out of your ass.

wintermute_oregon,

R1

HunterOfGunners,

Yes, give in to your hate. Ensure the echo chamber. Remove ALL legitimacy from this community.

wintermute_oregon,

R1 r3

HunterOfGunners,

🤡

HunterOfGunners,

You’re everything wrong with your party yet you think you’re here to save it. In ineffectual life is hilariously sad.

HunterOfGunners,

What… No ban? Did your mod-mates get onto you for running this community into the ground?

HunterOfGunners,

Nobody respects you

HunterOfGunners,

“Local asshole thinks everyone yelling ‘asshole’ at him means he’s on the right track. More at 11.”

subignition,
subignition avatar

You're kinda opposite reality on most other things you've said in this thread so I guess that tracks

wintermute_oregon,

I’ve been on track. You must be one of those think Joe is honest.

subignition,
subignition avatar

And making assumptions like that is why you will continue to be out of touch :/

Death_Equity,

You can be a racist and still be arrested at a civil rights protest, you don’t have to be there to support a protest. From there political spin can make a rainy day seem like a day in the sun.

Also a man will find himself doing things he never would have done because a girl is involved. Liberal cuties have beguiled many a conservative man, for some strange reason liberal women are often drawn to conservative men.

BunkerBuster,

This is just sad at this point. Nit picking Biden when Trump is Trump is a level of mental gymnastics that just shouldn’t be possible. This is a cry for help.

wintermute_oregon,

It isn’t nitpicking. Biden has a history of being a compulsive liar.

BunkerBuster,

Compulsive… Right.

realcaseyrollins,
@realcaseyrollins@noauthority.social avatar

@wintermute_oregon @BunkerBuster To be fair some of this, especially now, is #JoeBiden just suffering from #Dementia.

wintermute_oregon,

I don’t think Joe is suffering from dementia. He’s just an idiot. Always has been. He’s always been a liar.

realcaseyrollins,
@realcaseyrollins@noauthority.social avatar

@wintermute_oregon You sure about that chief?

It's pretty hard to get lost on a stage at your own speech. Unless...

video/mp4

wintermute_oregon,

That Biden has always been an idiot? As far back as I can remember. He seems just as sharp as when he was the VP.

I hate youtube but I think this video is hysterical

youtu.be/gTBpwOOTKjs

wildcardology,

He’s such a liar but only gives one evidence of a lie.

wintermute_oregon,
djsumdog,
@djsumdog@djsumdog.com avatar

No no .. don't defend him. Go back to The Daily Show around 2007. There was a clip of him nearly every fucking week (usually more than one) for him blatantly lying and bullshitting. He's always been a liar. I thought he was a piece of shit back then and he's still a piece of shit now.

realcaseyrollins,
@realcaseyrollins@noauthority.social avatar

@djsumdog @wintermute_oregon @BunkerBuster Unfortunately they pulled all the old #TheDailyShow episodes from #iTunes last week...I was going to buy them...

Not saying he's not a liar, or wasn't then, but I don't think 100% of this can be blamed on him being a liar since people with #Dementia will get things wrong all the time.

PeepinGoodArgs,

Biden is such a liar

Are.

You.

Sure?

realcaseyrollins,
@realcaseyrollins@noauthority.social avatar

@PeepinGoodArgs @wintermute_oregon

You might find this Wikipedia article interesting, for further research on this subject:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

PeepinGoodArgs,

I’m familiar with whataboutism. And what about it?

realcaseyrollins,
@realcaseyrollins@noauthority.social avatar

@PeepinGoodArgs Oh nothing, nothing, I just thought it was an interesting article, and relevant to the discussion.

wintermute_oregon,

Whataboutism?

Yes I’m sure Biden is a liar

PeepinGoodArgs,

Well if Biden is such a liar for this repeated lie (according to you), then what about Trump? (Other premises of my argument are implied by the three sources above).

If Biden is such a liar, and Trump lied wa-ha-hey! more than Biden, then Trump must be like…an outrageously egregious liar!

So sure, Biden’s a liar because he said he got arrested defending civil rights and didn’t get photographed like Sanders (which, would make the argument that Biden is a liar a hasty conclusion…but I don’t really care about pointing out fallacies as such, I’ll just roll with it like so: )

But Trump is thousands of times worse.

wintermute_oregon,

Ah the whole what about so and so instead of addressing the topic.

Biden is a liar.

PeepinGoodArgs,

Yeah, I conceded the point 🤷🏾

wintermute_oregon,

To be fair I think most presidents are liars.

I just like to call it out when they do it. It goes with the territory I suppose.

BunkerBuster,

Biden’s a liar. Trump’s a liar. Most presidents are liars. What’s supposed to be the take away? I shouldn’t vote for liars? Trump’s brand of lying is better? Every point you could possibly be trying to make is overshadowed by much bigger points that ultimately make the GOP look bad. Your bias is on full display here as you make mountains out of mole hills and I can’t help but laugh.

In all this shit smearing, you’re just covered in shit.

wintermute_oregon,

The take away is Biden is a liar.

BunkerBuster,

Like a petulant child…

wintermute_oregon,

Biden is like a petulant child? I could see that. Maybe you are on to something.

BunkerBuster,

You are so clever

wintermute_oregon,

You are the one who said it. I agree he acts like a child but he always has. I almost didn’t vote for Obama because of Biden, but I felt the Republicans were worse

BunkerBuster, (edited )

You are literally too stupid to insult

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