Corngood,

I hope this encourages children to learn an important life skill that will help them in numerous ways: Piracy.

DarkThoughts,

It's honestly stupid. They just go to less moderated sites, or if you're lucky, learn how to use a VPN and bypass all this nonsense anyway.

portside,

It is life changing really. I don’t recall ever paying for digital content. I still go to the theatres for an exceptional movie but that’s it. It has made me learn more about computers, be a bit savvy in tech. I can’t count how many times that has helped me get through my job. It really is an important life skill

Gigan,
@Gigan@lemmy.world avatar

You want children to watch porn?

Zoot,
@Zoot@reddthat.com avatar

I think he just meant that children are the most likely to uhhh, find a way.

DarkThoughts,

Kids will do that either way when they get to that age.

darth_helmet,

Oh the humanity. They might get deeply inaccurate ideas about the perks of pizza delivery.

Aceticon,

One should be vastly more worried about people who when they think of children think of porn, or vice-versa.

Normal people might think of children and think of playground safety or maybe how SUVs should be banned because they’re so much more dangerous for children on streets than normal cars.

People whose top concern when it comes to “children” is “porn” are emotionally invested in a certain kind of association that normal people don’t usually have in their minds in such strong terms.

febra,

I watched porn as a teen. Look, maybe in America you’re all puritans or whatever, but I started looking at magazines when I was 13 and then later found online porn (and hell I was LATE to the game according to my classmates). This is a reality y’all have to come to terms with. Teens watch porn.

sylver_dragon,

I was beating my meat like a boxer with a speedbag to the Playboy magazines I found when I was 11. And that was well before the internet was available. Kids are gonna find something to whack/flick it to, get over it.

Tangent5280,

lmao at boxer at a speedbag its so apt but still so fucking funny.

Deceptichum,
Deceptichum avatar

I was looking at porn by 11ish, so sure. Imagine making people wait until 18 or 21.

Do you also have issue with them watching action movies with people dying?

samus12345,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

People being decapitated = okay for kids!

Woman’s nipple = NOOOOOOOO!!!

pandacoder,

I watched Apocalypto for a school paper at age 15 (from a list of options given to me), and honestly I think some softcore porn would have been better. Some rated R stuff is fine for a kid to watch, Apocalypto definitely wasn’t.

Also that same year I researched and did presentations on Chinese history (was a prehistorical to maybe a couple hundred years ago timeline) and at least in my research I covered things like the foot tying thing (to make feet smaller) and that didn’t prepare me for the scene in Marco Polo (I think on Netflix) where that happened (and I didn’t finish the episode or continue the series because it’s just too fucked up).

Porn can be fucked up, some porn is definitely NSFL, but there are a lot of things that are so much worse than the average porn site.

I wish they actually tried to “protect the children” but the politicians are very clearly not.

Daxter101,

This might be a big nitpick, but “Child Protection Groups”, vs “Privacy Warriors”, sounds sleazy.

As positive connotations as possible on one side, vaguely negative on the other.

admiralteal,

Didn't you know? The right to privacy somehow only protects adults and not children.

Excrubulent,
@Excrubulent@slrpnk.net avatar

To conservatives, children don’t have rights. You protect them like you would protect property, by putting it under lock and key.

admiralteal,

Yes, they see them as property to be used.

But even in that stupid, dehumanizing framework it still ought to be one of the issues of "parents rights" they love so much. Your child's privacy being violated is a violation of your property rights. YOU didn't consent to that child's privacy being compromised, and they are a thing that belongs to you and can only exist according to your beliefs and rules, so that was an attack on you.

So the real truth is that to conservatives, there is no coherent ethical framework they can turn to to reliably make judgements. It is the politics of being a cruel and obstinate asshole.

Excrubulent,
@Excrubulent@slrpnk.net avatar

I agree that their logic isn’t consistent, but in this case I would say their solution isn’t to improve the privacy of their childrens’ porn access, their solution is to lock down their childrens’ behaviour so they cannot ever see porn. They’re not imagining their children as complex beings in this instance, they are objects.

The suggestion that online privacy when accessing porn is something that will affect their children would sound like an admission that you want to show their children porn. If you point out that their kids are going to find porn on their own because that’s just how the world works, they won’t investigate that. They’ll just fall back on their overdeveloped disgust reflex and attack you for it.

kholby,

I’m in the US so I’ve always needed a passport to watch porn (or anything else) in Britain.

dylanTheDeveloper,
@dylanTheDeveloper@lemmy.world avatar

Oi yer got ye wankn loicense

Aceticon,

In case anybody needs a reminder, the UK Government’s response to the Snowden Revelations that showed even more widespread surveillance of civil society in the UK than in the US was, unlike in the latter country, to pass laws that retroactivelly made the whole thing legal.

pineapplelover,

I’m an advocate of VPN but this is not the situation to recommend them but to chastise regulators and lawmakers for even allowing this. This is eroding our freedom of speech. I can see politicians expanding this and censoring terrorist speech and speech of certain political ideologies. It is the erosion our civil liberties we need to worry about.

Donut,

I agree that it’s a slippery slope, but what does this have to do with freedom of speech?

yildolw,

Smut is speech. Frankly, smut is the highest form of speech. You should not need to show your papers to speak or to listen

Donut,

Is that a legal definition or your personal interpretation?

rmuk,

If it’s a legal definition then that’s the problem.

Donut,

If you want to start talking to lawmakers about wanting to watch porn without having to show ID, you would be dismissed if you’re going to cite free speech being the right it is infringing upon. Privacy would be a better starting point, for example.

ieatpillowtags,

That’s your personal interpretation. I think you’re full of shite and so does Larry Flint.

Beetschnapps,

Big shame people are unaware of a century’s worth of obscenity law… how in western democracy the high courts literally found that laws like these violated free speech protections over “local prurient interests” and hence struck down those laws.

randon31415,

So the latest the UK can call an election and get Labor in charge is January 2025, the same month this goes into effect. Wonder if they will rush a repeal or get blamed for it starting?

AnyOldName3,
@AnyOldName3@lemmy.world avatar

Easy. Everything bad that happens before January 2025 is Gordon Brown’s fault, and everything after it’s Kier Starmer’s. You know it’s true because it says so in the Daily Mail.

Muscle_Meteor,

Discounting VPNs for a moment…

What if one person made an account with ID and then the entirety of the country just happened to know the login?

Usr: admin Pass: admin

RobOso,

Basically the idea of bugmenot.com

Blackout,
Blackout avatar

I mean, the government could tackle homelessness, or end child hunger, many appropriate subjects. But instead they want to regulate jerk-off material. Sad.

Alexstarfire,

They are way more concerned with genitals than they should be.

Cinner,

Our genitals at that.

Kumabear,

Pretty positive this is going to end up being a DNS level block that will be as simple as setting a dns server outside of the UK to bypass.

Because anything else would create an unbelievable amount of administrative overhead.

Also imagine the spike in identity theft this is going to cause.

milkjug,

China: “Hold my Tsing Tao

andthenthreemore,
@andthenthreemore@startrek.website avatar

Not this shit again

Rivalarrival,

Ofcom wants porn consumers to “think of the children”.

otp,

Porn perusers will soon have to prove their age by uploading an identity document like a passport, registering a credit card, […]

Ah, mandatory account creation with linked credit card being the most widely available and likely easiest option?

No wonder the porn sites aren’t fighting this too hard!

(…or are they?)

Flumpkin,

My guess is that some companies will greatly benefit from this regulation because they can somewhat monopolize the market. I also wouldn’t be surprised if those were the ones who lobbied for this.

sadreality,

Do I need to spread my ass cheeks while at it?

Asking for a friend

beaxingu,
@beaxingu@kbin.run avatar

its always nice that they want your official id associated with your porn. i just want to see what happens when that database gets hacked.

usualsuspect191,

Steve Shives?

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