FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Oh good. That surely won’t massively escalate things.

gedaliyah,
@gedaliyah@lemmy.world avatar

Israel’s far right is out of control and using the Gaza war for cover to recruit and radicalize. If Israel doesn’t figure out how to shut them down it won’t matter if they win the war. The country will be doomed.

Jollyllama,

I lived in Israel for 11 years. The government has been slowly but surely progressing the goals of the religious right. To keep it simple they believe the Messiah will come and march on Jerusalem to retake the temple mount and erect the Jewish temple where it once stood. Some modern interpretations I heard in yeshivah simply talk about taking back temple mount and demolishing the Muslim temple to erect the Jewish Temple.

There are a lot very rich and influential Jews who have been using their money and influence to further the ultimate goal of rebuilding the temple. Check out the Jewish National Fund.

Armen12,

If Israel didn’t exist there would be peace in the middle-east. It’s only Israel causing problems for everyone

NoneOfUrBusiness,

I get the sentiment but not really since Syria, Lebanon and Libya are... That.

BraveSirZaphod,
BraveSirZaphod avatar

Lol. Lmao even.

You're right, Saddam invaded Kuwait because of Israel. Hashemite Syria and Iraq saw their kings fall to coups because of Israel. ISIS happened because of Israel. Israel orchestrated the Houthi rebellion in Yemen. Saudi Arabia and Iran would be best friends if it weren't for pesky Israel. Turkey would have been welcoming and peaceful to the Kurds if it weren't for those damn Jews controlling the world.

Transcendant,

It needs to be administered by a secular peacekeeping force.

The mosque was built over the Jewish temple. Both groups have a historical claim to the site… and neither can be trusted.

Rapidcreek,

Interesting you should say that. I’ve visited there and it’s a remarkable place. At the time I was reading a Tom Clancy novel and he had the same thought for all of Jerusalem. To make peace, he wrote, it should be protected by the Swiss Guard from the Vatican

jeena,
@jeena@jemmy.jeena.net avatar

So the Christians should take control?

stopthatgirl7,
stopthatgirl7 avatar

Just put some Buddhists in charge of it. They’ve got zero skin in this game.

Riccosuave,
@Riccosuave@lemmy.world avatar

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/ff86c2ea-6f0d-4156-8491-bcd96a57efc5.jpeg

This meme seems oddly relevant to this discussion.

Rapidcreek,

That was Clancy’s idea of the best of alternatives

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA,
@HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world avatar

Remind me, what religion was Clancy?

Rapidcreek,

Don’t know. Religion doesn’t have much to do with it I think. The Swiss Guard are basicly Swiss mercenaries.

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA,
@HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world avatar

Riiiiiiiiight

jonne,

I’m sure there’s no bad blood in the area from the last times Christians tried to take Jerusalem.

jeena,
@jeena@jemmy.jeena.net avatar

I remember they can’t even decide by them selves :D www.youtube.com/watch?v=yznFT4-2dKI

jmcs,

The Church of the Holy Sepulchre’s keys have been in the hands of a Muslim family for centuries to prevent Christians from different denominations from murdering each other, so there’s already a precedent for it.

jeena,
@jeena@jemmy.jeena.net avatar

Is this related to the ladder?

RIPandTERROR,
@RIPandTERROR@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Wouldn’t be the first time Romans took control over Israelis

Rapidcreek,

Actually the Swiss Guard is…ah…Swiss.

RIPandTERROR,
@RIPandTERROR@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Was looking for a Roman Catholic Church joke but missed the mark I think

tim-clark,
tim-clark avatar

The US should just blow it up and end the stupidity

BaroqueInMind,
BaroqueInMind avatar

Nah fuck that, Europe conducted a Crusade there a few thousand years ago and can foot that bill again.

tim-clark,
tim-clark avatar

What are you talking about?? People from the middle east are fighting ovrr their stupid religion, has nothing to do with Europe

BaroqueInMind,
BaroqueInMind avatar

European involvement there for the past two thousand years is the whole reason everyone currently has an issue with each other there in the first place. What the fuck have you been studying in school about?

tim-clark,
tim-clark avatar

Temple mount is a holy site for Jewish and Muslim. Has nothing to do with Europeans or anyone that isn't a follower of either stupid religion. Both believe it is their religious right, that is their own stupidity believing in myth. Can't blame others for their misguided beliefs.

BaroqueInMind,
BaroqueInMind avatar

is the whole reason everyone currently has an issue

BraveSirZaphod,
BraveSirZaphod avatar

This was actually the original plan in the first UN Partition Plan, that Jerusalem would become an international city administered by the UN. The Jews that would go on to form Israel accepted, while Palestinians rejected it, war broke out, and here we are.

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