cosmicrookie,
@cosmicrookie@lemmy.world avatar

Once we’ve killed them all, lets talk again. We may even give an apology, but only if there is no one to give it to.

accidental,

There’s no point in acting surprised about it. All the planning charts and demolition orders have been on display at your local planning department in Alpha Centauri for 50 of your Earth years, so you’ve had plenty of time to lodge any formal complaint and it’s far too late to start making a fuss about it now. … What do you mean you’ve never been to Alpha Centauri? Oh, for heaven’s sake, mankind, it’s only four light years away, you know. I’m sorry, but if you can’t be bothered to take an interest in local affairs, that’s your own lookout. Energize the demolition beams.

TrenchcoatFullofBats,

“On display? I eventually had to go down to the cellar to find them.”

“That’s the display department.”

“With a flashlight.”

“Ah, well, the lights had probably gone.”

“So had the stairs.”

“But look, you found the notice, didn’t you?”

“Yes,” said Arthur, “yes I did. It was on display in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying ‘Beware of the Leopard."

Fedizen,

I see the Netanyahu coalition plan to evaporate 1 million children is progressing with the barest minimum pushback.

Linkerbaan,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

The “vote for Genocide Joe 2025” shills are in full force right now even on Lemmy while he’s still actively commiting genocide. Democrats don’t give a shit about this and neither do Republicans.

Cavemanfreak,

I’ll bite. That’s because his likely opponent is actively trying to dismantle the American democracy, together with a big chunk of the rest of the republicans.

So the choice is between Biden and actual fascists. Should be kind of an easy choice, eh?

neeshie,

Genocide there vs genocide in both places, we’re fucked

Cavemanfreak,

That we can agree on.

Linkerbaan,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

If your democracy supports genocide I would seriously reconsider what you call democracy.

The democracy is already gone

Fedizen,

I think its “genocide of Gaza” for Joe and “genocide for Ukraine and Gaza” for Trump. As shitty as the choice is, there will sadly be real world consequences for it.

Linkerbaan,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

America is already talking about dropping support for Ukraine.

Ukraine was just a proxy to exhaust Russian resources with.

Now that the entire country is in ruin America is going to pull support and leave them for dead like they’ve done with all their other proxies.

NatakuNox,
@NatakuNox@lemmy.world avatar

Go fucking where?! Move south? Okay just pack up and move south? Well actually, IDF tells them to leave everything behind and those that don’t leave everything have been bombed on the evacuation routes under suspension of being Hamas. Oh and they’ve bombed areas they’ve told people to go! So, go fucking where?! With nothing but the clothes on your back, to a place with no water, food, or shelter. That probably will be bombed anyway. Ya so, GO FUCKING WHERE?

Maggoty,

There’s more evacuation orders now too. So they’ve made about 3/4 of Gaza off limits. And of course you still can’t evacuate through IDF lines. Only further towards the water…

RogueBanana,

Theres only one refugees camp safe from bombing, the bottom of the ocean. But given its IDF they might start using torpedoes next.

porkins,

They didn’t leave like they were supposed to. It is on them.

theluckyone,

If they had just been born Jewish, they wouldn’t be having this problem. /s

porkins,

I find this comment to be antisemitic and unhelpful.

theluckyone,

I find your comment to be supportive of genocide, murder, and apartheid. As a result, your character is disgusting and repulsive. May you be judged accordingly.

snooggums,
snooggums avatar

Yeah, they should have fled south where the IDF bombed those that left the north...

porkins,

Per the news story. The IDF provided leaflets mapping out safe zones. Hamas should have provided these to it’s people and provided safe passage.

KevonLooney,

It’s funny that your name is a character from Star Wars. That reminds me…

All those people on Alderaan should have just left when the Death Star showed up, right? It’s actually a really good analogy. Thanks.

dustyData,

Darth Vader called 2 hours prior, told them all 45 billion of them Alderaans had to leave the planet. It’s not his fault, the Empire is the most moral army in the galaxy.

kandoh,

Looking for an excuse to ignore cruelty never reflects well on the person doing it. It alerts the reader that you understand what is happening is wrong and are going ahead with it anyways.

ChaoticEntropy,
@ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk avatar

Is it so hard to remember that the Israeli government is an extreme right wing, theocratic regime.

The likelihood of your values aligning well with them or their spokespeople, even within Israel, is very low. They stripped their own supreme court of the ability to stop them doing what they wanted.

xc2215x,

Glad Jake was shocked. Good to see from him.

be_excellent_to_each_other, (edited )
be_excellent_to_each_other avatar

Never paid attention to the guy until this video in 2020. Now I know he's a corporate media talking head and all, but seems like when I do take the time to listen to him, I'm hard pressed to find where I disagree strongly. I was pretty shocked and impressed that he took it to the cops so directly in that one.

be_excellent_to_each_other,
be_excellent_to_each_other avatar

But does he condemn Hamas?

machinin,

I think this part of the script is to talk about his antisemitism for those comments.

sirboozebum,

I wonder if the Israel government purposely chooses the biggest pieces of shit to be their spokesmen?

trackcharlie,

Have you read up on anything about Netenyahu? He is king asshole over there right now. Something like 80% of the population hates their current government and, rightly, actively blames them for the entire current situation.

sirboozebum,

And yet they have voted him into office for most of the last 20 years.

blazeknave,

Have you read about their parliament in the last three years, over three months ago?

sirboozebum,

So what? What about the last 20 years before that?

They were perfectly happy with his policies towards the Palestinians and settlement of the West Bank.

His only mistake was trying overturn the powers of the Supreme Court to save himself from corruption charges.

blazeknave,

Huh? His party has only been in power half that time. Even now he’s only still around by gaming shit like the GOP with the electoral college and changing laws. He’s not popularly elected.

How many Israelis have you talked to about Palestine and 2 or 3 state solutions? Are you aware how many want a separate state for the Orthodox bc they don’t want theocracy or to go to war for others’ religion.

I don’t think you’ve been following the nuances for 20 years. At least you don’t sound informed as one would be. Apologies if I’m incorrect.

SaltySalamander,
SaltySalamander avatar

Bibi was first elected Prime Minister in 1996.

aniki,

[citation needed]

Altofaltception,

I love how they argue that Gazans are responsible for electing Hamas, but Israelis are not responsible for electing Netanyahu.

girlfreddy,
@girlfreddy@lemmy.ca avatar

And the last time Palestinians had an election for leadership was in 2006.

Hamas has not allowed an election since.

Source

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA,
@HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world avatar

And the Israeli government was chosen by the Israeli people. Hmmmm

Warl0k3,

Much like how the US government is chosen by the US people, or the UK government is chosen by the UK’s people. What’s your point?

SCB, (edited )

He’s not currently employed by the Israeli government

Edit: literally first line of the article

Tapper was visibly disgusted after ex-Israeli ambassador Mark Regev victim-blamed nine members of a CNN producer’s family who were killed in Israeli airstrikes.

Rapidcreek,

Jake didn’t seem too shocked to me.

machinin,

Probably more a mix of disbelief, despair and deep revulsion.

Seeing his emotions when the spokesperson blamed those 9 people for getting bombed was moving.

Rapidcreek,

Maybe he’s tired of everybody projecting themselves into him.

machinin,

Seeing your post history, I can see how it might be difficult to recognize pain and suffering in other people that aren’t Jewish.

Rapidcreek,

Sure sure post history. I guess I’m not afraid of calling out fools. Mea culpa

aniki,

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  • Rapidcreek,

    If you don’t think Hamas are terrorists, you join a long line of fools.

    aniki,

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  • Rapidcreek,

    Interesting that you don’t know what we’re talking about but take time to criticize anyway.

    aniki,

    Interesting that you think I’m the same level of crayon-eater as you are.

    I’m not. I actually understand nuance.

    Rapidcreek,

    That’s funny

    SkyezOpen,

    We all know hamas are terrorists. The difference is you don’t see any distinction between hamas terrorist and Palestinian civilian.

    Rapidcreek,

    We all know hamas are terrorists

    Then what is your beef? The story is about Hamas,. Even says so in the title. The rest you created in your own feeble mind.

    SkyezOpen,

    The title says 9 family members of a CNN producer died. I can’t tell if you got confused about which article you’re commenting on or if you’re proving my point in spectacular fashion.

    Rapidcreek,

    The quote of my comment came from a string that was titled “Did Hamas Make Millions Betting Against Israeli Shares Before October 7 Massacre?” Try to keep up.

    SkyezOpen,

    I wasn’t even addressing that comment, it has nothing to do with what I said. I mean overall, as a rule, you either cannot comprehend or don’t care about the distinction between hamas and civilians.

    Rapidcreek,

    So your goal is to misquote me, then call me out for what you think I “overall” think. Did I get that right? Then you tell me what I believe.

    Seems like you would have a better time fighting with yourself.

    SkyezOpen,

    I’m not quoting you, I’m saying if you saw a distinction between hamas and civilians, you wouldn’t spout the bullshit you do. But feel free to prove me wrong and admit Israel is doing a genocide.

    Rapidcreek,

    I don’t care about you, so I’m not going to perform for you. I am sure you can dream up something on your own.

    girlfreddy,
    @girlfreddy@lemmy.ca avatar

    And there it is, your myopic selfishness revealed.

    Rapidcreek,

    Selfish for not playing your game? I’ll have to live with that.

    girlfreddy,
    @girlfreddy@lemmy.ca avatar

    Victim-blaming is not a game.

    Strange-not strange you would think it was.

    Rapidcreek,

    Well we can count on you to misrepresent any conversation. Show me in this string where I blamed any victim or STFU.

    girlfreddy,
    @girlfreddy@lemmy.ca avatar

    And here I thought you were going to calmly tell us more zionist stories.

    Rapidcreek,

    In other words you can’t

    girlfreddy,
    @girlfreddy@lemmy.ca avatar

    Keep on whining dear. I’m sure some other zionist will come along soon enough to comfort you.

    Rapidcreek,

    You’re the one who engaged me. I told you you prove your point or STFU. you obviously can do neither.

    95% of people have never used the word “Zionist” a day in their lives before 10/7.

    And you are getting as boring as they come.

    girlfreddy,
    @girlfreddy@lemmy.ca avatar

    Poor baby.

    Maybe you should go have a nap.

    Rapidcreek,

    Does that talking down shit work for anybody in your life? You’re a disaster.

    girlfreddy,
    @girlfreddy@lemmy.ca avatar

    Or maybe a soother would help?

    Sparlock,

    lol

    Goferking0,

    You mean idf bombing everyone in Gaza?

    Rapidcreek,

    Do you ever listen to yourself?

    Goferking0,

    We shouldn’t care at the disregard the IDF has had for any non Isreali civilians? Idk what you have issues with

    Rapidcreek,

    At issue is it has nothing to do with what I wrote.

    Goferking0,

    Like the rest of your comments this makes no sense.

    Maybe when idf stops blowing up journalists or their family’s people will stop being as critical of them. Until then it looks terrible to argue for them

    Rapidcreek,

    I guess I’ll respond to you with any old thing that comes to mind to. Like see ya idiot.

    Rapidcreek,

    BTW.

    95% of people have never used the word “Zionist” a day in their lives before 10/7.

    Posers

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  • Sparlock,

    I support this comment.

    Sparlock,

    That is some weak shit.

    Rapidcreek,

    You should know

    Sparlock,

    That’s the best you could do?
    Pathetic.
    My 8yr old son has more wit.

    Rapidcreek,

    Put him on. He’s no doubt more interesting

    Sparlock,

    What an odd comment. Have you not realised I’m not the same dude you were making lame attempts to burn? Yet your first reply implicitly seems to assume some earlier conversation and your prior knowledge of me.

    Try to keep up champ.

    Edit: In before the “nuh uh I totally knew you were a different guy” comment.

    SkyezOpen,

    Wait hang on explain really quick how indiscriminate bombing is self defense. It’ll look really funny under that comment.

    Rapidcreek,

    Funnty? funny how? Do I amuse you?

    SkyezOpen,

    I’m serious give me the spiel about how indiscriminate bombing is self defense.

    Rapidcreek,

    Go get your shine box.

    girlfreddy,
    @girlfreddy@lemmy.ca avatar

    You live a life of extreme indoctrination we can only dream of.

    /s

    machinin,

    To give a little longer response, it is disheartening that the only response to that kind of genocide is a audible sigh. Maybe that was fine, but you have that murderer on national TV. Rake him through the coals.

    Edit - Thinking more about this - if you had Goebbels on your show during WW2, what would you ask him?

    Mirshe,

    Honestly have to agree. You’ve got him on TV, and after that remark, you should drag that line of thinking all the way out. Make them justify it, don’t just accept “oh they should’ve known better”.

    stopthatgirl7,
    stopthatgirl7 avatar

    Tapper had been fairly pro-Israel until now, from what I’ve seen, so I think he was only just starting to have a wake up.

    Altofaltception,

    Tapper is likely waking up because of the impact so close to home (the producer).

    stopthatgirl7,
    stopthatgirl7 avatar

    That’s precisely why. That’s what it takes for some folks, sadly.

    SkyezOpen,

    It’s interesting to see the shift, and Israeli spokespeople are so incredibly bad at their jobs it’s going to keep happening.

    GONADS125,

    They’re bad at their jobs because they lack even a shred of empathy. They are indoctrinated into dehumanizing any perceived enemy of Isreal.

    Buddahriffic,

    After they’ve been able to silence critics with the word “antisemetism” since like WWII, they haven’t really had to put much effort into brushing shit like this off. Then the Trump presidency quickly gave people a large dose of similar bad faith arguments and justifications to the point where an immunity is building up.

    A tipping point was reached between this and the last time the Israel Palestine conflict flared up. The last time, I saw the bad faith in the antisemitic “argument” but it was still popular enough that it felt very risky saying anything about it. It doesn’t feel that way anymore, though I do wonder how far Israel will go to try to shut up critics and how far they’ve already gone to maintain the political support they have in the west. They are already killing journalists, what else?

    HeyThisIsntTheYMCA,
    @HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world avatar

    Ask? Jail would be worth it

    machinin,

    Time to break the apartheid State.

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