scratchandgame, (edited )

OpenBSD = Security

It is actually correctless. OpenBSD = Correctness + Simple + Free (free from copyleft too)

FreeBSD = The main UNIX-like

Citation???

NetBSD

maximum portability??

But up to NetBSD 10 (at the time writing it was not released) YOU DON’T HAVE SSL CERTIFICATES INSTALLED IN THE BASE SYSTEM !

That’s my warning :)

Loucypher,

And then you have NomadBSD if you need an OS in a usb stick :)

state_electrician,

“I just threw a dead squirrel in a shoe box and installed NetBSD on it.” is one of the bash.org quotes I still remember.

possiblylinux127, (edited )

BSD is kind of dead

Additionally the lack of copyleft does nothing for user freedom. You could buy a device and you would have no way of knowing it runs free software.

Vendetta9076,
@Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works avatar

This entire comment is incorrect

possiblylinux127,

Then why are Xi systems and a bunch of other companies moving away from BSD.

Vendetta9076,
@Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works avatar

They aren’t? XI aren’t at least. Having two products doesn’t mean they’re abandoning one.

possiblylinux127,

I though they were thinking about dropping support for TrueNAS core

Vendetta9076,
@Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works avatar

Nope

possiblylinux127,
Vendetta9076,
@Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works avatar

Well fuck.

possiblylinux127,

Sorry to be the bringer of bad news

whoami,

NetBSD, from their own website:

The NetBSD Project’s goals

A project has no point if it doesn’t have goals. Thankfully, the NetBSD Project has enough goals to keep it busy for quite some time. Generally speaking, the NetBSD Project:


<span style="color:#323232;">provides a well designed, stable, and fast BSD system,
</span><span style="color:#323232;">avoids encumbering licenses,
</span><span style="color:#323232;">provides a portable system, which runs on many hardware platforms,
</span><span style="color:#323232;">interoperates well with other systems,
</span><span style="color:#323232;">conforms to open systems standards as much as is practical.
</span>

In summary: The NetBSD Project provides a freely available and redistributable system that professionals, hobbyists, and researchers can use in whatever manner they wish.

Based on the name of have assumed it’s be used in things like network appliances but in 20 years I’ve never seen a single device use it.

The name comes from being develop over the internet, when that was still a pretty new concept. It’s pretty popular among Japanese ISP’s iirc.

If you’re at all interested in unix, you should try NetBSD. Open has security as a focus…although some of that is overstated imo. FreeBSD is clearly targeting servers, even if it is all purpose.

NetBSD is less popular, but it’s clean, lightweight, portable, has pkgsrc. Think of Net as a cross between Open and Free.

scratchandgame,

I think OpenBSD, FreeBSD and NetBSD are much cleaner than Linux (evidence: Chimera Linux)

bizdelnick,

There’s no specific point in any of *BSD. They all are general purpose OSes. NetBSD forked from FreeBSD, OpenBSD forked from NetBSD. Conflicts between developers were main reasons for that.

whoami,

NetBSD didn’t fork from Free iirc. They took 4.4 BSD and started developing it themselves of the net.

Theo de Raadt was kicked out of netbsd, and started OpenBSD.

bizdelnick,

Yes, you are right. Both FreeBSD and NetBSD are based on earlier BSD systems. Anyway there are no fundamental differences between them.

whoami,

no fundamental differences between net and freebsd?

bizdelnick,

No such ones that would make one of them unsuitable for some task that another copes with.

TCB13,
@TCB13@lemmy.world avatar

Pretty much like all Debian forks. They’re all forked from Debian because of conflicts between developers / different ways of seeing things. :P

ryannathans,

Somewhat confused this is in a linux community when none of these OS are linux based. Are we lacking on BSD communities?

cashews_win,

We don’t have BSD communities and even if we did they probably wouldn’t be big enough to get a decent answer.

So I asked here cos there’s a high chance that some Linux users will also know something about *BSD.

PseudoSpock,
@PseudoSpock@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

That doesn’t mean we want it here. Missing the community you are looking for? Create it.

Cenzorrll,

You’d probably get better conversations at selfhosted I know some folks there run *bsd network appliances. NASs, firewalls, etc.

whoami,

you’re more likely to find BSD communities on reddit, each projects mailing lists, freebsd forums, and unitedbsd.com (which is a great forum, although not too active).

acockworkorange,

It’s not like the interests are not aligned.

PseudoSpock,
@PseudoSpock@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

They aren’t.

makmarian,
makmarian avatar

There are some BSD communities on Lemmy/kbin, but they don't have many subscribers yet.
Here are the ones I know of:
@openbsd
@openbsd
@bsd
@netbsd
@bsd
@freebsd
@freebsd
@netbsd
@bsd
@freebsd
@FreeBSD

Ramin_HAL9001, (edited )

Yes, it is mostly appliances, but an (informal?) stated goal of NetBSD is too run on all computing hardware.

  • FreeBSD = user-friendly free Unix (plus ZFS and jails 😀)
  • OpenBSD = very secure free Unix (no ZFS 🙁 but has the VMM hypervisor 😀)
  • OpenIndiana = user-friendly free Unix that runs old Solaris software (plus ZFS and zones 😀)
  • NetBSD = runs on any computer chip ever built within the past 40 years (some ZFS support, but no zones, jails, or VMs 🙁)

Naturally, that makes NetBSD a good choice for appliances, especially ones that might only have limited memory.

(Here is a quick explainer on the difference between Jails, Zones, Containers, and VMs)

EDIT1: someone pointed out to me that ZFS is not supported on OpenBSD. Sorry about that everyone.

EDIT2: there is a ZFS driver for NetBSD

ducking_donuts,

There’s no ZFS support in OpenBSD is there?

Ramin_HAL9001,

Thanks, I had to double check that but you’re right, ZFS isn’t on OpenBSD. What a shame. Anyway I edited my above post.

whoami,

No, but I think someone made read only support for ZFS available on OpenBSD. Freebsd is obviously the best for ZFS. It works on NetBSD too.

flying_gel,

But there is zfs support in netbsd… wiki.netbsd.org/zfs/

Ramin_HAL9001,

According to the wiki, ZFS “works well” but doesn’t seem to be as stable as in FreeBSD or OpenIndiana, and is not enabled by default so you have to update your rc.conf file to build the ZFS drivers.

atzanteol,

From “back in the day” the big claim was that NetBSD would run on anything. Portability seemed to be their major goal.

socphoenix,

I think the point is network appliances but it seems mainly used by hobbyists from what I’ve seen.

doubletwist,

The main point was always portability, and the ability to run NetBSD on basically ANYTHING.

socphoenix,

If you look at the supported platforms you kind of get an answer here. There’s support for the m68k Macintoshes and other similar ancient devices still.

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