rab,

Freeland legitimately seems intoxicated if you watch any of the footage

sbv,

While not exactly the wealth tax or excess profit tax some had suspected, Freeland is targeting the wealthiest 0.13 per cent by increasing the capital gains inclusion rate — the portion of capital gains on which tax is paid – for individuals with more than $250,000 in capital gains in a year.

The rate will increase from one-half to two-thirds, and will also apply to all capital gains realized by corporations and trusts. This is expected to impact approximately 12 per cent of Canada’s corporations and Canadians with an average income of $1.42 million.

This tax change will apply to capital gains realized on, or after June 25, 2024.

Let’s fucking go.

I would love a lifetime limit on the capital gains exemption on property, but this is a start.

Someone,

I don’t know much about capital gains, especially at such a high level, but why do we even have a partial (fractional) exemption? Wouldn’t it make sense to tax the whole thing and adjust the rates if needed? Or is that effectively the exact same thing?

sbv,

but why do we even have a partial (fractional) exemption?

I think the idea is to encourage investment, since tax is only reduced on investments, which are supposed to create jobs, etc.

Wouldn’t it make sense to tax the whole thing and adjust the rates if needed?

People can make capital gains in any tax bracket. So if 40k of your 80k income is gainz, the rate is reduced.

Or is that effectively the exact same thing?

I dunno, it creates separate (but sorta proportional) tax brackets for a certain kind of income.

I buy the argument that we should encourage investments that create jobs, but I feel like a lot of investment categories (like real estate) don’t create jobs.

Someone,

Ahh, somewhere I got it in my head that capital gains were separate to income tax. That makes a lot more sense, thanks. Obviously I don’t have a fully formed opinion on the matter as I was previously misinformed, but I agree, maybe there’s a way to incentivize actual job creation while not rewarding unproductive gains.

northmaple1984,

One way it was explained to me many years ago was that the partial rate was supposed to very, very roughly account for the fact that capital gains are very often not earned entirely in the course of a single tax year so that the math doesn’t get horrendously complicated.

For example, you buy into a bunch of mutual funds, let it sit for like 2) years then sell for like $200k profit. You didn’t earn that $200k in a single year, you earned it over the course of 20 years. For this simply example you could compare to how much taxes would you have paid at your marginal rate on an extra $10k income Evert year for 20 years, say your marginal rate is 30%, $3k x 20 years = $60k in taxes you could have paid otherwise. (Versus if the assumption was that you made $200k in one year your average tax rate on that might be 40% you’d pay $80k in taxes)

sbv,

I found this elsewhere:

https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/4746af32-1ae0-4b3f-be9e-7303c76bfc92.png

a wee bit disappointing, tbh

HowManyNimons,

There’s always billions in new spending. It’s called inflation.

avidamoeba, (edited )
@avidamoeba@lemmy.ca avatar

You should look at the quantity of money equation - www.khanacademy.org/…/money-growth-and-inflation. Even the mainstream economic theory suggests that spending doesn’t necessarily mean inflation. And of course we have the humongous example of massive spending in Japan since 1990 that hasn’t triggered inflation for decades.

That said I got the best intuition for inflation from Randall Wray’s intro to MMT. Truly insightful material. You can find several lectures of his on YouTube. Highly recommended.

rab,

My dude we are literally spending 1 billion per week on interest right now. That’s more money than what goes into healthcare and education combined

LeFantome,

About $750 million. But point taken.

wise_pancake,

I need to spend time on this, but this hits so many things I’ve been complaining about, now I only wish the programs didn’t game so long to start, it’s long enough the conservatives will take credit and say look how good we are.

avidamoeba,
@avidamoeba@lemmy.ca avatar

Wow a tax increase on the 0.1%, I’ve lived to see the day! The liberals must be feeling extra socialist today. 🤭 Make it 1% next year!

FunderPants,

The Liberals actually added a new tax bracket / increased taxes on top earners in 2016. So unless you are under 8 years old you’ve seen this Liberal government do it more than once.

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